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Re:What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans by bamboozled on Thursday March 02, 2017 @06:26AM (#13773307)
Sadly, this attitude has been the problem for too long now, it might be our undoing.

The common individual waits for some authoritative direction, without taking any immediate action or responsibility of their own.

The individual somehow believes they won't have an impact, failing to realize they're part of the same system as everyone else and, it's the sum of all our behaviour that has got us to this crisis point.

If the old way isn't working, why not try something new?

Don't forget the power of influence. It's monkey see, money do with us humans!

Re:What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 02, 2017 @06:44AM (#13773396)
I'm not saying don't make the individual-level changes. Do them, sure. But that - talking about personal responsibility - is exactly the "old way" that isn't working. I'm looking for impactful things that one can do beyond personal changes.

> Don't forget the power of influence. It's monkey see, money do with us humans!

Sure, marketing / propaganda / public outreach is a very good example of things I'm looking for! However, I assume most people here are better at building than talking, so that's why I asked for examples in which one can apply engineering skills.

Re:What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans by bamboozled on Thursday March 02, 2017 @07:21AM (#13773532)
This doesn't mean marketing, bragging or propaganda. It's about making an effort.

Take divesting your savings from banks that fund non-renewablecenergy projects, for example. Actually doing it is effort, it's something you can do, and it will have a positive impact on climate change, even if it's small, it's a start; However, here's the kicker, actually doing it is the key. You will see how others respond to this action, it's different to just making a suggestion. It's leadership.

Honestly, making changes on an individual level (sometimes this can mean some sacrifices) is probably a much stronger catalyst for change in others than you might think.

This quote from Ghandi is great, it's just not always easy, I hope you enjoy :)

Be the change that you wish to see in the world

Re:What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 02, 2017 @07:31AM (#13773569)
Thanks for reminding me of the quote :). Also, interesting example with banks; this has never occured to me.

I'm not denying that individual efforts and "leading by example" is worthless. It's powerful when in aggregate, and for that very reason it's worth doing.

My question is generally - after one does the individual-level changes, what else can one do that could help with the skills that one has?