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Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by samfisher83 on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:15AM (#13763731)
The wages in india IT are growing at a pretty high rate.
Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by m23khan on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:19AM (#13763766)
Does DevOps engineer in India make US $120,000? Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000? Does a system admin. in India command US $90,000?
Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by a_imho on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:46AM (#13763991)
I'm on the other end of things, but never got a satisfying answer to why should I earn a cent less than someone US based (remote, traveling nomad whatever) just because I push commits from a different ISP.
Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by jazzyk on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @03:39PM (#13768054)
Perhaps because you don't need to:

- pay $250K per child in college costs

- pay 25K/year in health insurance

- pay $3K/month for a small apartment

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by a_imho on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @04:15PM (#13768451)
This is the sentiment I usually see but how are one's expenses or expected living standard is relevant regarding compensation for work? Imo it is very hard to argue against equal work => equal pay. At least from a moral pov.

Btw that is a lot of incorrect assumptions about expenses, including where someone's children might want to go to college, globally fixed costs like work equipment and cloud services, not to mention goods which are actually cheaper in the US.

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by AstralStorm on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @02:44PM (#13767511)
Because the market wills so. (Actually, you're at the mercy of your employer.)

Also high competition for perceivably cheap candidates.

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by a_imho on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @03:25PM (#13767955)
For one, I don't think just because you can exploit entire groups of people you are right to do that. The market could command lower wages for <underprivileged group> and it would not be right. It just happens overseas employees are protected by no one.

What I find more interesting though, is that remote first companies behave the same. way E.g. look at GitLab salary calculator[0]. How does that make sense assuming a rational market?

[0] https://about.gitlab.com/jobs/developer/

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by anaerobia on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:40AM (#13763934)
The DevOps in my company is in Pakistan. They make $10 an hour.
Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by abhi3 on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:21AM (#13763782)
> Does Java programmer in India command US $100,000?

2500 USD to 15,000 USD

http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Job=Java_Software_Develo...

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by galuano1 on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @10:32AM (#13764438)
That data is just wrong, and not what people get paid in major IT players, which are more likely to get these projects.

The empirical formula for a new hire is $3000 * years of Experience. The median starting Salary is $4500 ~ $5000, and the salary usually caps out at $25000, and people above that payscale are usually considered architects.

Re:San Francisco university lays off IT workers, jobs head t... by matwood on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @09:55AM (#13764088)
This is a good point. At a prior company we pulled our outsourced IT from India and went to the Philippines. Even there wages were quickly rising, and there was constant turnover as people job hopped for more money.

I finally convinced the company to just hire a couple people locally, and they were much better off for it.