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Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by rattray on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:35PM (#13756355)
> I don't understand why you guys stay with AWS.

Who do you recommend instead (assuming in-house or Hetzner-equiv is out of reach)? Google Cloud? Azure? Rackspace?

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by johansch on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:37PM (#13756370)
Google Cloud if you're looking for something similar. It's just so much better and cheaper. I think a lot of the resistance here towards that kind of move is just because people are inherently lazy and they aren't paying the bill themselves.

(I'm guessing a relatively large part is also selfish attachment to the market leader because of employment reasons. I hate wasting money, both for myself and for my employer, so I don't really understand this kind of thinking - but I do understand how it could flourish in a venture capital-rich time/locale.)

I also recommend reading:

https://thehftguy.com/2016/06/15/gce-vs-aws-in-2016-why-you-...

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by debaserab2 on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:53PM (#13756558)
Google Cloud doesn't exactly have the greatest reliability/uptime either.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by eicnix on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:04PM (#13756697)
https://status.cloud.google.com/summary tells a different story or do you have other information?

I have used GCP for some time without being affected from any incident.

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by debaserab2 on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:03PM (#13757317)
I'm not sure what you mean. If anything that link underscores my point. GCE has absolutely had it's own catastrophic errors. Remember last April when ALL instances in ALL regions went down?

https://status.cloud.google.com/incident/compute/16007?post-...

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by miken123 on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @06:06PM (#13759139)
At least Google has a post-mortem, at AWS everything would still show up green with some random note about 'increased error rates'.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by boulos on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @04:16PM (#13757927)
While I agree that was a horrific outage for us, there's a big difference between no external connectivity for a few minutes (note: internal IPs still worked fine, as did access to APIs through that mechanism) and "ALL instances in ALL regions went down".

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (and wouldn't want to be an incident responder at AWS today...)

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by eicnix on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:14PM (#13757418)
The GCP services are usually within their SLA target so I don't see the problem with the incidents. So you know what you buy and can take actions if you need a higher SLA for your application.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by debaserab2 on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:26PM (#13757508)
> so I don't see the problem with the incidents

All instances going down in all regions is an order of magnitude worse than a single service going down in a single region. You're deluding yourself if you think GCE is any more reliable than any other reputable cloud hosting platform.

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by briffle on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:19PM (#13756876)
That is a pretty awesome page.. way better than a page full of green icons, during an obvious outage... I like that they have writeups a few days after the incidents....
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by joatmon-snoo on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:44PM (#13756451)
Google also doesn't have the best record for developer tools.
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Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by ecliptik on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:37PM (#13757056)
too soon
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by johansch on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:56PM (#13757250)
;)
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by chebum on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:11PM (#13757401)
GC's CDN doesn't cache files bigger than 4Mb. No Windows VMs. Bound to AWS for these 2 reasons.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by dragonwriter on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:18PM (#13757454)
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by mrmaximus on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @06:58PM (#13759533)
As already mentioned, they do have Windows VM's but there are some caveats that indicate it's not fully baked yet. 1.) They require that each VM MUST have a public IP address so that Windows can talk to an activation server every 30 days. 2.) You cannot yet bring your own license.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by vgt on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @03:26PM (#13757510)
Someone else already mentioned Windows VMs.

Looks like CDN has a 10MB limit:

https://cloud.google.com/cdn/docs/caching

(work at Google Cloud)

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by kohuma on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:07PM (#13756749)
What about something like B2 from https://www.backblaze.com/ ?
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by Twirrim on Wednesday March 01, 2017 @11:57AM (#13765506)
S3 in a single region is based out of multiple data centres / availability zone, with data distributed so that the loss of a single availability zone won't impact either data availability or durability, even to the point of being comfortable with complete physical destruction of an AZ. The same applies for Azure, GCP etc.

B2 is based out of a single DC (or at least, was at launch and I don't see anything that suggests that has changed?) You've got to decide what's most important to you. Data persistence or $$$.

Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by pmalynin on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:40PM (#13756400)
OVH
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by LeoHaggins on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:57PM (#13756606)
Bad idea there, support is horrible.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by rspeer on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:14PM (#13756835)
OVH doesn't even want to take my money to keep my server running. Their auto-billing process is busted and when it goes wrong they just delete your server.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by fishnchips on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:29PM (#13756975)
That's not what I've seen. I misconfigured my auto-billing and got paged in the middle of the night by nodes mysteriously disappearing, but they released those machines minutes after my CC went through. Not that I'm a big fan of OVH but if you design your system to allow for failure you can't match their value for money.
Re:Ask HN: Is S3 down? by jacquesm on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @02:08PM (#13756759)
What is your last datapoint on that?

The last year or two has seen a remarkable improvement according to those customers of mine that host there.