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Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by bostonvaulter2 on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:31PM (#13750915)
But even if they say that they're not storing or sending it, how feasible is it to verify that fact?
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by mulmen on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:54PM (#13751019)
I don't mean to suggest this is something Amazon would bring to market using an Echo. I mean do you really need Amazon/Apple/Microsoft/Google levels of hardware to run a voice interface for an individual's digital assistant?

Is it feasible to install hardware with the capability of Alexa in the standard user's home?

I think the answer to that is probably "yes", more or less. Some things may be a bit harder to do but I don't see why I need a huge black box in the sky to parse my voice or do some geolocation.

Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by nitrogen on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:39PM (#13750955)
Very feasible -- don't plug it into the Internet.
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by M_Grey on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:42PM (#13750963)
At which point you have a brick with a microphone, and a pretty blue light, right?
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by amiller2571 on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:52PM (#13751008)
I think the blue lights only show when its connected. You would get pretty red lights
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by ukyrgf on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @01:46AM (#13751805)
"I'm having trouble understanding you right now."
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by nitrogen on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:00PM (#13751042)
I have some ideas for a more strict but more user friendly household firewall device and corresponding UI, if something really really needs the Internet.

But your lights, TV, etc. don't live in an Amazon datacenter.

Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by M_Grey on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:10PM (#13751083)
You're right of course, but interesting sidenote: in the murder case I mentioned the police ended up looking at the suspect's smart water meter logs... which showed the use of about 140 gallons of water in the middle of the night. So... no, it doesn't all live in an Amazon datacenter, but it these days it might live somewhere.
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by mulmen on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:54PM (#13751022)
Not if it is configured to connect to a server in your home with all the data it needs to function.
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by M_Grey on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:01PM (#13751049)
Oh of course, but I wonder if by the time you'd created that system, you'd feel the result was worth it? Is what Echo offers really so valuable you'd go through the trouble? I wouldn't.
Re:CloudPets teddy bears leaked and ransomed, exposing kids'... by mulmen on Tuesday February 28, 2017 @04:28PM (#13758049)
I don't own an Echo because I don't feel the convenience of such a device is outweighed by the obvious privacy implications. I would be more likely to use it if it was located within my home but at that point the limiting factor would probably be cost. This is why such a device would have to provide additional functionality.

In a world where it is just expected that you have a personal cloud server in your home Alexa becomes an "app" on that server and the Echo continues life as a very nice speaker/microphone device you can place in a visible area in order to interact with that server.