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Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by NoirDesir on Monday February 27, 2017 @09:23AM (#13744368)
UK is not Europe.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:17AM (#13744816)
Yes, it most definitely is part of Europe, and it is currently still part of the European Union too.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by NoirDesir on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:39AM (#13744962)
Member of the European Union, not member of the Schengen Area... UK has always been whimsical and not reflecting the "European" values... thus, UK is not Europe.

They're free to run things the way they like, but please don't keep telling that UK is Europe... especially after they chose and got the Brexit... not a single true european will endorse its mistakes.

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:21AM (#13745300)
Brexit is solely related to UK membership within the European Union. It is wrong to conflate being a part of Europe with being a part of the European Union.

Throughout history the ties between what is now the UK and what is now continental Europe are deep and inseparably intertwined (both culturally and geographically); it is absurd to to claim that the UK is "always whimsical" (whatever that means) and does not reflect "true" European values, whatever those may be. Look even closer within the UK and the Republic of Ireland...how is one European and the other not?!

The UK is and will foverver be part of Europe, period. This has no bearing on your opinion of who is or is not a "true European."

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:33PM (#13746556)
Too late to edit, but continental -> contiguous. UK is already continental Europe; they're on the same plate.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by grzm on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:37PM (#13746592)
The common understanding of continental Europe does exclude the U.K.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Europe

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:49PM (#13746690)
Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I was thinking in terms of Alaska vs the rest of the US.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by strictnein on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:43PM (#13746086)
> "not a single true european will endorse its mistakes"

But how will a true Scotsman feel about it?

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by throwaway2048 on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:09AM (#13745206)
the soviet union and eastern block were europe too, stop creating absurd distinctions.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by jacquesm on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:50AM (#13745569)
Europe -> the EU, not Europe, the landmass.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:52PM (#13746191)
So is Europe -> Eurozone? Is EU -> Eurozone? Is Schengen -> EU?

These are all quite clearly defined. Some (many?) may think that the EU is the same as Europe, but this is plainly false.

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by throwaway2048 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:13PM (#13745782)
The EU is the EU, europe already has a definition, trying to conflate it with the European Union for ideological reasons is stupid.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by ng12 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:14PM (#13745801)
I would never in my life read the word Europe and think of the EU first.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by jacquesm on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:20PM (#13745852)
And when you hear 'America' you never think of the USA either?
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by ng12 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:46PM (#13746122)
The two are not equivalent. America is shorthand for the United States of. Mexico is short for Estados Unidos Mexicanos. Europe is a geographically defined continent.

If I were in Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, Serbia, Macedonia, or the Ukraine would it not be appropriate to say I was in Europe?

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:59PM (#13746244)
Well technically I think it depends on which side of Iceland you're standing. To the west you're on the North American plate and to the east it's the Eurasian plate.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:48PM (#13746144)
Consider that the only country within the North/Central/South American land masses explicitly having America as part of its name is the United States of America. It makes a lot of sense really considering the global dominance of the USA relative to its neighbors that "America" is colloquially understood to refer to the USA, and not Canada, or Panama, or all of South America.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by jacquesm on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:50AM (#13745564)
The UK is a pain for Europeans to get into. It's trying very hard to be USA light when it comes to immigration.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by cr1895 on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:54PM (#13746204)
This has everything to do with the UK not being in the Schengen area, and nothing to do with it being in the EU or Europe at large.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by peteretep on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:26PM (#13745914)
With an EU passport, one uses the same queues as Brits to get into the country.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by jacquesm on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:33PM (#13745985)
Yes, and it takes forever. At least it did the last time I came to the UK (Dec 2015). The line started well into the hallway, a hundred meters or so before the counter.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by peteretep on Monday February 27, 2017 @12:54PM (#13746209)
So you think it's a pain for Europeans to get into the UK because they're treated like UK citizens.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by jacquesm on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:20PM (#13746427)
No, it's a pain for everybody and I'm not a masochist.

What the UK wants to do to its own citizens is their problem, they can vote to change it.

Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by Flimm on Monday February 27, 2017 @10:14AM (#13744785)
The UK is part of the continent of Europe. It's also still a member of the EU for the time being.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by Beltiras on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:08AM (#13745195)
The UK is actually an island off the continent of Europe. If we are being pedantic. It may belong to Europe culturally in some respects but geographically, it does not.
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by richrichardsson on Monday February 27, 2017 @11:13AM (#13745232)
Re:How a French scholar was treated at US airport by mercer on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:33PM (#13746559)
To you and my sibling posts: could you both elaborate?

I'm inclined to agree that the UK differs from mainland Europe in a number of ways. I can't judge if this is the case for border control, but it wouldn't surprise. I'd really like to hear both sides elaborate rather than the 'yes', 'but no' comments so far.