Educated won't visit the USA anymore. Only the people with desperate need for a job will "visit" the USA.

I know plenty of Europeans who are still enchanted enough by "Friends", "Sex and the City", "Breaking Bad", etc who are dying to visit the US. These stories don't have mainstream impact yet.

not sure about being enchanted by some tv shows, but yeah some people would still want to visit US, in land mass this big there is always something interesting to see (culture really ain't the draw for the US). these days I just keep explaining to them all the humiliation they would be exposed and hence they change plans accordingly. so will we. world is a beautiful place, too big to cover it properly in a lifetime.

go where it's exotic (this ain't US), where you are actually welcomed (again not US), experience traditional culture (what? seeing how shamefully native indians were/are treated? no thank you) and so on. if you are into big cities, european and asian places are way more interesting and intense anyway.

Go to NZ. Natural wonder of the world and the craft beer is killer. You'll thank me.

They will be asking for passwords in NZ too before too long by the sound of it.

https://nzccl.org.nz/content/customs-able-demand-unlockpassw...

Plus there is what happened to Sam Blackman

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objecti...

Being on the east coast of AU, I'm well aware and love visiting it. :) You're absolutely right, more people should visit NZ!

Also, Garage Project do phenomenal work. Love their stuff.

With a little effort I'm sure his righteous indignation will have no difficulty finding a reason not to visit NZ, e.g.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case#Arrests_...

That kind of thinking is dangerous, though, in all forms: equating people with their governments is the beginning of the end, in all directions.

> to now simply not wanting to visit due to these sort of policies and actions at the border.

I think that's actually the best way to achieve change in this case. Will suck for the tourism industry though.

Only 19% of the US population voted for Trump, and only a portion of those actually wanted people to be harassed at airports. There are a lot bad things happening right now, but for the most part, the US hasn't changed fundamentally in the last month, and it's still full of great people and amazing places to visit.

This existed before Trump. That's why I said 'the last few years'. It seems like the US government has had a steady drift towards police state for some time. This is reflected in many facets of the government's approach to authority, for exmaple the militarisation of police forces, border controls, TSA, etc. etc.

Fair point and I agree about that steady drift which I think really got going after 9/11.

Don't let the shitbag xenophobe minority convince you to not visit our country. Stick it to 'em by bringing your foreign ass here and enjoying the hell out of the place.

Not possible if I'm stopped at the border because of my bedroom activities.