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Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by shmerl on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @01:20AM (#13703477)
> most people have used computers, and have already learned how to accomplish basic tasks on one of the Big 2 desktop OSes.

This comes down to MS and Apple trying to dominate the education system. IMHO schools could teach Linux from the start, and a major part of this issue would be gone already. Closed incumbents fear that, and provide "incentives" for schools, to make sure their lock-in remains unchallenged.

> There's a reason Dell markets their Linux laptop as the "developer edition" and not the "Linux edition" or "Ubuntu edition" or whatever.

There is too much inertia there. Since Dell had troubles in the past, they translate it into present. They should just start anew and offer Linux on all their models.

> very unreasonable (for a layman) modal if it can't.

If something can't deduce security method, what do you expect it to ask? Particular details of the UI adjust to selected security method (at least in KDE manual configuration). I.e. I find it completely reasonable, and I doubt Windows or any other OS can fare better if automatic configuration fails.

Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by smitherfield on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @01:33AM (#13703552)
> There is too much inertia there. Since Dell had troubles in the past, they translate it into present. They should just start anew and offer Linux on all their models.

If I were a PC OEM I'd be in wait-and-see mode for Google's new OS, which may or may not be Android-for-the-desktop.

> If something can't deduce security method, what do you expect it to ask? Particular details of the UI adjust to selected security method (at least in KDE manual configuration). I.e. I find it completely reasonable, and I doubt Windows or any other OS can fare better if automatic configuration fails.

It should guess the possible security method(s) based on the entered password, and if that fails display the more complex modal, but with the lesser-used fields behind an "advanced" button.

Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by shmerl on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @01:38AM (#13703564)
Personally I'd be pretty upset about Android for the desktop. Ironically, while Android is using Linux kernel, it's also using completely incompatible userland from the rest of the Linux world, starting from its own libc. This creates a major mess and lack of drivers on mobile for normal Linux distros that use glibc, Wayland and etc. and need for such hacks as libhybris to work around that mess. I really don't wish the same sick situation to spill out to desktop Linux.

> It should guess the possible security method(s) based on the entered password

I'm not sure it's a good idea security wise. I suspect, it might inadvertently expose your password.

Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by flukus on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @01:41AM (#13703592)
> If I were a PC OEM I'd be in wait-and-see mode for Google's new OS, which may or may not be Android-for-the-desktop.

I'd be investing in linux in case google and MS go the nexus/surface/mac route and cut third parties out of the equation. Kind of like what samsung is doing with tizen.