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Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by mikekchar on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @07:57PM (#13701895)
Linus uses KDE, IIRC ;-) I don't really know anybody who liked Unity (what's shipped by default on Ubuntu) out of the box. I know people who have learned to like it, so I suppose it's an acquired taste.

I actually like Gnome 3 because it is highly configurable for a programmer (plugins are really, really easy to write). But, in the end, I don't like all the Gnome infrastructure -- especially they really broke internationalised input for a long time and pretty much forced me to change.

My wife uses KDE and absolutely loves it. I had previously introduced her to Gnome 3, which she didn't like and Cinnamon, which she was pretty neutral about. She was originally a non-computer user -- she had only ever used a cell phone for her whole life if you can believe it.

I eventually migrated to XMonad and I don't think I will ever change to a more integrated desktop environment.

Free software is about freedom. It's freedom to use your computer how you see fit. It's freedom to write whatever software you want, or to tweak it, or to fix bugs. It's freedom to help other people by writing software, or tweaking it or fixing bugs.

The idea of having some coordinated effort that makes decisions for everybody and provides a lowest common denominator is appealing for a lot of reasons. Probably that's what it takes to compete with the vendors who see the computer as an integrated consumer good -- a black box that is highly targeted to a particular market.

As a user of free software who enjoys his freedom, penetrating the mass market, but removing choice is not something I look forward to. I think some people have this idea that Linux needs to have mass market appeal to be successful. I am not one of those. I'm happy if more people want to enjoy software freedom, but I could care less about Linux market penetration on the desktop.

But anyway, if you are interested, I would give KDE a shot. Personally, I find it over complicated, but it has some really compelling features if you're into that kind of thing.

Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by ChuckMcM on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @09:43PM (#13702495)

   > I suppose it's an acquired taste.
I think it is true, and there has always been desktops that are a small taste variation away from Windows and desktops that are a small taste variation away from MacOS X, and desktops that are a small taste variation away from CDE/Motif.

I have always felt that this was the single largest impediment to Linux as a desktop, not because there were several different tastes but that the APIs used to provide the UX were different across all of them as well. GtK2, GtK3, Qt4, Qt5, XMotif, Etc. Some FOSS apps try to 'adapt' depending on which desktop you are using, many just punt and look like what ever their 'birth' desktop looked like, and many suck in that other desktop as a function of being installed. My Ubuntu 16 deskop has XFCE on it (Xubuntu) but other apps have sucked in both versions of GTK, and all of Qt and the KDE libs.

While it lets people complain if you force a single desktop metaphor down their virtual throats, at least it has a good shot of the Apps all working, in a general way, the same way. And that is what separates (in my opinion) more general adoption of the Linux desktop from the specialize adoption we have now.

Re:The Year of Linux on Everything but the Desktop by andrewshadura on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @04:22AM (#13704261)
> I don't really know anybody who liked Unity (what's shipped by default on Ubuntu) out of the box. I know people who have learned to like it, so I suppose it's an acquired taste.

Everything's acquired taste. FTR, I quite like Unity.