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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by valuearb on Sunday February 19, 2017 @02:23PM (#13681399)
You pay for child care, health care and universities, whether through taxes or your pocketbook. Paying through your pocket book just means you have freedom of choice.
Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by vidarh on Sunday February 19, 2017 @04:26PM (#13682074)
True, but e.g. the tax difference between an average salary in Norway and the US is far too small to even make up the private healthcare costs and other additional costs, and Norway has a far flatter salary structure - far more more peope are close to the average salary.

The effect is that very large proportions of the population end up with a better standard of living.

Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by stuckagain on Sunday February 19, 2017 @03:47PM (#13681889)
In America we have low taxes but not choice. You can choose to drive in America but you cannot choose to ride the high speed rail instead. Our choices are limited by our regime.
Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by majewsky on Sunday February 19, 2017 @07:34PM (#13683243)
I would say that you have "choice", but not "freedom". Choice, in that dichotomy, refers to being able to draw from a set of pre-determined options (e.g. the choice of cereal brands in the supermarket), whereas freedom refers to the ability to follow one's desires, ambitions and morals.

Just the other day, I watched a documentary about the protests that led to the opening of the Inner German border and the demise of the GDR. It was kind of sad to see people protesting for various kinds of freedom, knowing that most of them will only get choice (e.g. the choice of which country they cannot afford to travel to because their jobs were not competitive anymore).

By the way, I don't think that Europe has systematically more freedom (by the above definition) than the US. There are some life plans that you can only carry out in the US, and some that can only be realized in Europe.

Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by london888 on Sunday February 19, 2017 @04:09PM (#13681998)
I don't think many people in Europe envy the US healthcare system.
Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by vilmosi on Sunday February 19, 2017 @03:57PM (#13681929)
Choice of what? I don't really care what brand my antibiotics are. Whether the government pays for it via taxes or me out of pocket, I only care if they work.

Same with universities, vacation, labour laws etc...

Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by seanp2k2 on Monday February 20, 2017 @03:19PM (#13690532)
Consider if one is unable to afford health insurance premiums and has a pre-existing condition which is expensive to treat. This person is not likely to have credit to be able to afford more than a few months of treatment. What choice do they have left other than to die (which is also not typically legal to accelerate)?
Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by vilmosi on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:05PM (#13746297)
I don't get your point. I also think choice is overrated when it comes to treatment. Having a treatment is more important.
Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by svantana on Sunday February 19, 2017 @03:53PM (#13681911)
Unless you don't have enough money to pay for those things, of course. And that is the whole point of the system.