Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric

Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by maxsilver on Sunday February 19, 2017 @11:05AM (#13680293)

A Used Renault Zoe can be bought for well under 10k EUR. In five years, replace the battery for an extra ~5K EUR (you probably won't need to, my EV battery is 4+ years old with 50k miles on it and still works great, but we'll include it in the cost just to calm your fears)

Even including a brand new battery, total cost is still well below your 15K EUR max budget, using real-world numbers you can actually purchase with today :

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?make=RENAULT&model=ZO...

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by paganel on Sunday February 19, 2017 @12:22PM (#13680724)

I was talking about prices of new cars, for 4,000 euros I bought a pretty good 7-year old ICE hatchback which does its job pretty well. I saw that Zoe is priced at around 23,000 euros new, which for a mini-car is really expensive (if you're not a SV engineer, that is)

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by ZenoArrow on Sunday February 19, 2017 @01:22PM (#13681049)

>"I was talking about prices of new cars, for 4,000 euros I bought a pretty good 7-year old ICE hatchback which does its job pretty well."

I don't know what the second hand car market is like where you live, but just in case it's similar to the UK, it's possible to get a second hand hybrid electric car for similar money in the UK. For example, can get a second hand Prius for less than £3k if you shop around:

http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=18290&_from=R40&_trksi...

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by maxsilver on Sunday February 19, 2017 @01:48PM (#13681190)

Well, sure, a 7 year old used car costs less than a 3 year old one does.

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison though. a Nissan LEAF or Renault Zoe will probably end up around your 4k euro price when they get to be 7 years old too.

My point is that if you want an affordable EV option, they exist. You don't have to be an engineer to afford an electric car anymore, they've become reasonably cheap, and prices seem to slowly be dropping every year

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by ptaipale on Sunday February 19, 2017 @11:58AM (#13680585)

>A Used Renault Zoe can be bought for well under 10k EUR.

What? Where? Denmark? I'd seriously consider. Here (Finland) they are completely unavailable as used, and new ones start at 32 990 €.

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by ZenoArrow on Sunday February 19, 2017 @12:11PM (#13680667)

The GP linked to a UK website in their comment.

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by ptaipale on Sunday February 19, 2017 @12:17PM (#13680700)

Oh. Right-hand drive. Not very good here.

It looks like a new Zoe sells for exactly half the price in UK (14 k£ , 16 400 €) than here in Finland (33 k€). Is there a substantial subsidy on electric cars in UK? Here they have less tax than others.

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by ZenoArrow on Sunday February 19, 2017 @01:16PM (#13681024)

There is a substantial subsidy, but not one that covers the full price difference you've highlighted:

https://www.gov.uk/plug-in-car-van-grants/what-youll-get

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by dingaling on Sunday February 19, 2017 @03:38PM (#13681837)

> A Used Renault Zoe can be bought for well under 10k EUR.

Bear in mind that with many examples of Renault and Nissan EVs, you also have to pay a mandatory monthly battery leasing fee - even as the second or subsequent owner. So the headline purchase cost is only part of the price.

There are some Zoes, and a larger proportion of Leafs, in which the battery is owned outright but one has to check before purchasing.

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Re:Norway: 37% of new vehicles sold in January were electric by mmel on Sunday February 19, 2017 @06:03PM (#13682721)

Does that mean they replace the batteries at no cost when they start to fail, as you're leasing them and don't own them?

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