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Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by kijin on Sunday February 19, 2017 @02:57AM (#13678648)
The "mainstream" market doesn't buy 7700K's. The "mainstream" market doesn't even know what hyper-threading is.

People will see two identical laptops, one with the 2-core Intel i3, and one with the 4-core Ryzen, with similar clock speeds and similar prices. The Ryzen model might even give the illusion that it comes with an AMD graphics card even though it's integrated. That's all that matters.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by kinghajj on Sunday February 19, 2017 @02:59AM (#13678651)
Especially since AMD's APUs' integrated graphics have stayed superior to Intel's.
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by Const-me on Sunday February 19, 2017 @05:12AM (#13679027)
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by agumonkey on Sunday February 19, 2017 @08:22AM (#13679553)
I think I've seen news about intel negotiating with AMD to integrate their GPU design in place of intel iGPU/IRIS.
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by simooooo on Sunday February 19, 2017 @08:49AM (#13679660)
All those consoles are bound to have some benefit
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by lightedman on Sunday February 19, 2017 @06:20AM (#13679193)
>newest Intel iGPU vs two-gen old AMD iGPU, barely keeping pace

Yes, it's still true. That should've been plainly obvious.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by Const-me on Sunday February 19, 2017 @09:32AM (#13679877)
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by onli on Sunday February 19, 2017 @10:56AM (#13680241)
That Broadwell-cpu is an exception. It is the only series for the desktop where Intel produced capable integrated graphics. Btw, it is also a very strong processor.

But it was released immediately before the next cpu generation was released. It got no real marketing, and support for it was abysmal – some to many games just produced a black screen with it. Based on its performance and pricing I'd have liked to recommend it, but given its socket and its support issues that was almost never a good idea.

Normally you'd compare the A10-7870K to the integrated HD graphics of a Skylake or Kaby Lake cpu, it beats those easily.

Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by lightedman on Sunday February 19, 2017 @07:21PM (#13683176)
The R7 GPU architecture is not from 2015. R7 came from 2013 with the 200-series of AMD GPUs, and was the second generation of GCN.
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by Narishma on Sunday February 19, 2017 @09:44AM (#13679935)
Not to mention the few available Intel parts with those GPUs cost an arm and a leg.
Re:AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Benchmarked – Giving Intel’s $1000 Chip... by astrodust on Sunday February 19, 2017 @05:43AM (#13679104)
If it has a K in the part number it is by definition not mainstream.

Those are made for overclockers, enthusiasts, which are a tiny segment of the market. For every K-part Intel produces they must make six E-series Xeon chips and fifty low-power notebook ones.