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Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by dpweb on Saturday February 18, 2017 @12:44PM (#13675709)
Better to just ditch passwords altogether.

If maybe 5% of the accesses the site requires authentication (the other 95% passthru cause you have the cookie) - make that 5% use a text code to your phone. EDIT: App on yr phone, not an SMS

No more passwords.

Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by fpgaminer on Saturday February 18, 2017 @12:51PM (#13675753)
Text messages are incredibly insecure because of how easy it is for someone to take over your phone number.
Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by dTal on Saturday February 18, 2017 @07:32PM (#13677506)
Yet another reason to use SMS encryption (which seems oddly rare) like SilenceIM (formerly SMSSecure, formerly the dropped SMS code in TextSecure [now Signal]).
Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by dpweb on Saturday February 18, 2017 @12:55PM (#13675777)
So Google and Microsoft use 2FA cause texts are more insecure? If I lose control of my phone they're into all my websites anyway.
Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by simple10 on Saturday February 18, 2017 @01:07PM (#13675840)
Yes, texts are insecure for 2FA. It's better to use Google Authenticator or similar.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/hey-stop-using-texts-two-facto...

Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by pdpi on Saturday February 18, 2017 @01:07PM (#13675841)
Not losing control of your phone. Losing control of your phone _number_.

There's plenty of stories around of spear phishing attacks involving attackers taking over the victim's phone number. Mobile operators are notoriously vulnerable to that sort of shenanigans.

Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by kkl on Saturday February 18, 2017 @01:08PM (#13675843)
Losing control of your actual phone is not the same as losing control of your phone number.

I'm not sure about Microsoft, but Google supports several other 2FA mechanisms in addition to SMS.

Re:Show HN: Evilpass – A slightly evil password strength che... by beefhash on Saturday February 18, 2017 @12:49PM (#13675741)
Which then requires:

1. every site to obtain some automatable way to send text messages, which can get mildly expensive,

2. people to acquire at least one burner phone for authentication because they don't want $randomwebsite to have their real phone number, and

3. users to give up some degree of anonymity because the country of origin can't be hidden behind a proxy, as the phone number gives it away.

This sounds like an overall loss for everybody to me.