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Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by nocman on Friday February 17, 2017 @11:14AM (#13669278)
'If you are claiming that the article is a lie, written only to encourage a change in messaging rather than a change in perspective, you are violating the core principles of discussion of on HN which is "charity"'

^^ Huh? So if the parent is fully convinced that "the article is a lie, written only to encourage a change in messaging rather than a change in perspective" it is against HN principals of discussion for him to say so?

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by shkkmo on Friday February 17, 2017 @11:51AM (#13669660)
http://philosophy.lander.edu/oriental/charity.html

Dismissing an argument or article with a "They don't really mean that" does not tend to lead to very productive discussions, especially when there is no attempt made to asses the argument at face value.