Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by wiredfool on Friday February 17, 2017 @07:21AM
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Generally, the load requirements for parking garages are smaller than the loading for space where humans can crowd.
Cars just aren't that heavy compared to people.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by quicklime on Friday February 17, 2017 @10:58AM
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A typical car park is about 2.5m wide and 6m long, so 15 sq m. A typical car weighs about 1.5 tonnes, so the load on the floor of a car park is 100 kg per sq m.
I think it would be hard to exceed that with people, without breaking the fire code.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by wiredfool on Friday February 17, 2017 @12:52PM
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Design loading for human occupancies come in in the range of 100psf, which is something like 500kg/m2. That's roughly one 200lb adult per 2sf.
You can pack a _lot_ of humans into a small space.
Cars are about half that, because they don't pack well.
Of course, libraries are even worse, sometimes you're looking at 300+ psf design loads there.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by Neliquat on Friday February 17, 2017 @09:24AM
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Last I checked, my car weighed more than me, and all my posessions, combined.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by thfuran on Friday February 17, 2017 @09:52AM
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Is it also a lot bigger than you?
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by JoshTriplett on Friday February 17, 2017 @05:50AM
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> Imagine how much parking would be needed for everyone in a 40-story high-rise to put their car there.
About as much as many 40-story high-rises already have underground.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by lmm on Friday February 17, 2017 @06:41AM
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I've never seen a 40-story high-rise that had enough underground parking for more than a small fraction of its occupants. They build them in places that have transit links and set the cost of parking spaces at a high enough level that most don't bother.
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it
by AnthonyMouse on Friday February 17, 2017 @06:02AM
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> About as much as many 40-story high-rises already have underground.
It isn't about where you put it, it's about how much it costs.
It isn't either or.
Imagine how much parking would be needed for everyone in a 40-story high-rise to put their car there.
And using multi-level parking garages is often prohibitively expensive because the upper levels have to be built to support the weight of the cars.