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Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by the8472 on Friday February 17, 2017 @02:53AM (#13666679)
> particularly for the bike lane.

If the bike lane is not between the parking space and the sidewalk there's something wrong with your roads.

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by lkbm on Friday February 17, 2017 @11:01AM (#13669136)
I actually generally prefer bike lanes that put me more closer to the moving cars, despite said cars running over my bike twice so far.

Drivers mostly know to watch for cyclists, though they're pretty bad at it. Pedestrians know to check for cars when entering the street, and cyclists benefit from that caution. But that bike lane with non-driving space to its right? People will blithely step into it, hop out of their cars into it, or stand in it, assuming it's a safe, non-vehicle space.

Maybe it's just because it's so unusual where I live, or because it's in a pedestrian-heavy area, but I do not like it at all, and feel safer sharing the road. (My experience with these (as a cyclist) is mostly along the Drag in Austin, TX: https://goo.gl/maps/TPi9Yyj6SFn )

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by adrianN on Friday February 17, 2017 @03:24AM (#13666778)
If you do it like that you have to be very careful how you design your intersections. Cyclists are even harder to see when they're hidden behind a row of cars.

Like this for example http://www.protectedintersection.com/

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by osdiab on Friday February 17, 2017 @04:53AM (#13667142)
I take that over risking getting car doored, or cut off by an uber. Let the careful thinking happen at the design phase - or even better, let's have dedicated bicycle boulevards (they don't have to be wide to accommodate staggering amounts of bike traffic)