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Re:Show HN: WebSocket-first development by api on Monday February 13, 2017 @11:10AM (#13636309)
That would be in the headers and prior to protocol breakout. I'm talking about after that. Why does web sockets have an extra layer of framing and other nonsense? Not to mention other "modes of operation." It's a socket. Give me a socket.
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Re:Show HN: WebSocket-first development by toomim on Monday February 13, 2017 @12:31PM (#13637039)
No kidding. It's just a new version of TCP, implemented on top of HTTP, which is implemented on top of TCP.
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Re:Show HN: WebSocket-first development by lisivka on Monday February 13, 2017 @02:53PM (#13638181)
Because of firewalls, proxies, and NAT.
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Re:Show HN: WebSocket-first development by api on Monday February 13, 2017 @03:41PM (#13638566)
You already have a TCP connection, so NAT and firewalls don't matter here. Proxies have to be web socket aware anyway.
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