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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by devoply on Sunday February 12, 2017 @04:23PM (#13630942)
> So how do you protect yourself?

"Sorry, sir, I use a password keeper and left the password file at home. I do not have any passwords with me."

That's not a lie, and I would love for them to explain to the judge if they did ever choose to detain you as to how this is not a valid and legal excuse and non-cooperation in any way.

And if you are in doubt about saying something like this, actually use a password keeper, it's a good security practice.

Further, do not bring any electronic device with you.

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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by pjc50 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @04:28PM (#13630982)
Meanwhile on HN: "man jailed indefinitely for not decrypting hard drives": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13629728
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by devoply on Sunday February 12, 2017 @04:30PM (#13630999)
That's a different issue. When a court orders you to do something, then they would tell you to go back home and get the passwords or allow you the ability to do that. It's not reasonable for border security to expect you to carry your passwords with you at all time for all the services you use. It's a security risk to you, from third parties which might want to steal your data. Like for instance robbers that might force you to divulge your banking information at gun point.
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by pjc50 on Monday February 13, 2017 @03:26AM (#13633891)
What does "reasonable" have to do with CBP? They can detain you for a surprisingly long time or deport you (complete with banning you from further entry if you're not actually a US national) for failure to comply.
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by Erik816 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @06:48PM (#13631940)
Except you probably have a password manager client app on your phone so you can look up and enter any passwords you need for your own convenience.
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by devoply on Sunday February 12, 2017 @06:50PM (#13631951)
Except I don't have my phone. Why don't I have my phone? Because I don't want it to be stolen and I have no need for it where I am going. I want to unplug and relax, not be on call all the time.
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by sporkologist on Sunday February 12, 2017 @08:33PM (#13632457)
Wrong answer, citizen, the state requires you to carry a phone!
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by E6300 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @07:22PM (#13632100)
Since you probably have such an app, then you possibly don't have it.
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Re:A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until... by accountface on Sunday February 12, 2017 @10:07PM (#13632848)
Or just say you forgot the password.
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