Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in API battle

Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by metachris on Saturday February 11, 2017 @07:07PM (#13625692)

The developers moved to MariaDB, which is what everyone uses nowadays anyway rather than MySQL.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by stephenr on Sunday February 12, 2017 @12:46AM (#13626985)

> which is what everyone uses nowadays anyway rather than MySQL

Um. No.

Unless they're doing something quite eccentric with it, developers will target the standard MySQL api, and the application will then work with any of the MySQL/compatible database servers:

- Oracle MySQL Community Edition

- Oracle Standard/Enterprise Edition (i.e. paid versions)

- Percona Server for MySQL

- Percona XtraDB Cluster

- MariaDB

I tend to use/recommend Percona Server/Cluster (for dev/prod respectively) but as long as the MySQL-version is compatible (i.e. the fork has the SQL/engine features your application needs) it's likely that other factors (e.g. PXC has Galera replication built in, is completely open source, and has commercial support available if you want it) will be more of an influence to the decision on which to use.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by wcarron on Saturday February 11, 2017 @09:17PM (#13626250)

Patently false. I barely hear any talk about MariaDB whereas I still consistently hear about MySQL. Please define "Everybody" in this context, because it sounds like you've conflated it with "I".

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by Spivak on Sunday February 12, 2017 @12:41AM (#13626970)

It's the same situation with SSL and TLS. If you ask for a MySQL database you have a good chance of getting MariaDB.

Oracle's largest asset in this situation is the brand mindshare.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by wcarron on Sunday February 12, 2017 @07:03PM (#13632010)

What do you mean by "ask for a MySQL database"? If I were a client, I'd be rightfully pissed off if the developer I contracted gave me a completely different database than I requested in my stack. That's a complete breach of contract, if there was indeed MySQL on the spec sheet.

Who are you working with that would flagrantly ignore the obvious differences between SQL and MariaDB?

Personally, I've never seen MariaDB used in an instance where a simple MySQL db sufficed.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by bdcravens on Saturday February 11, 2017 @10:24PM (#13626488)

Among the many open source PHP installs for things like Wordpress, I don't know that I've seen a single install of MySQL. WPEngine, for instance, only offer MySQL.

The 10M+ pulls (and 3.8k stars) on Docker Hub suggests that MySQL is still getting a ton of use.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by vosper on Saturday February 11, 2017 @09:27PM (#13626293)

Facebook, YouTube and Google are still massive users of MySQL. And MySQL development is moving along (admittedly after not much for a few years). I doubt MariaDB really figures compared to MySQL in industry use, or new installs.

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Re:Oracle refuses to accept pro-Google “fair use” verdict in... by ithkuil on Sunday February 12, 2017 @07:00AM (#13627970)

FYI http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-quietly-dumps-oracle-mys...

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