Re:PayPal adds “non-discouragement” clause to their User Agr...
by __s on Saturday February 11, 2017 @04:14PM
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I also interpreted it as "PayPal is not a payment method" when reading. Legal statements shouldn't rely on out-of-contract context to parse
Re:PayPal adds “non-discouragement” clause to their User Agr...
by guptaneil on Saturday February 11, 2017 @04:49PM
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IANAL, but it's not exactly "out-of-contract." The term "payment method" appears 49 times in the User Agreement[1].
Having said that, a quick skim suggests the term is used inconsistently. Sometimes it refers to PayPal as a payment method, other times it refers to the information you enter into PayPal (ie credit card, bank account, etc) as payment methods. This is because PayPal is both a payment method itself and a wrapper service for many payment methods. For example:
Your PayPal balance, if you used your PayPal balance as the payment method or a bank account as the payment method, once the money clears the bank.
So while it is confusing, I don't think you'd get very far with the "PayPal is not a payment method" interpretation.1: https://www.paypalobjects.com/webstatic/ua/pdf/US/en_US/ua.p...
Re:PayPal adds “non-discouragement” clause to their User Agr...
by droithomme on Saturday February 11, 2017 @05:09PM
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That is not correct. When one contracting party is in a superior position, courts consistently rule against the drafter of the agreement when there is ambiguous language. It's a long held legal principle taught in contract classes at law school.
Re:PayPal adds “non-discouragement” clause to their User Agr...
by eriknstr on Saturday February 11, 2017 @07:59PM
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Glad to hear that.
Re:PayPal adds “non-discouragement” clause to their User Agr...
by arkades on Saturday February 11, 2017 @07:54PM
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They ordinarily don't. A normal contract - and most EULAs, even - include explicit definitions before a term is used repeatedly.
e.g. The party receiving payment ("seller") shall...
This one didn't.
If it actually is a payment method (as their lawyers undoubtedly take as a given), then it limits mischaracterization to aspects of PayPal that do not involve its character as a payment method.
Only if you already believe it is somehow "not a payment method" does the other reading make any sense.