Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by matt_wulfeck on Saturday February 11, 2017 @12:58PM (#13623767)

How pretentious of you to decide what's best for someone else. Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO. Maybe people doing the job enjoy it or are doing it part time or find that the resume benefits outweigh the pay?

Either way there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day. Work is work regardless of if you look down your nose at it as "menial".

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by abiox on Saturday February 11, 2017 @02:04PM (#13624137)

> Your job shaming just reinforces the notion that everyone must get a higher education degree or GTFO.

i think they were simply remarking that someone had an advanced degree and it wasn't being put to use.

this point is really about the system/world/situation and not so much about individuals.

> there's nothing inherently wrong with a job that requires you to drive around all day

seems like a red herring.

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by Baeocystin on Saturday February 11, 2017 @11:40PM (#13626775)

Re-read what I said, because you are responding to something that has nothing to do with any of my claim.

Restated: If you spend 8+ years and tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn something, not putting it to use is a colossal waste of resources for everyone involved. It's not just you. It's the seat you took from another student who would have appreciated it more.

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by manigandham on Sunday February 12, 2017 @02:51AM (#13627342)

That's the same thing. It's not up to you to define "waste of resources" based on what someone chose to learn.

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by Baeocystin on Sunday February 12, 2017 @11:08AM (#13628949)

I have a different perspective. Education is resource-constrained, and learners do not exist in a vacuum. In my opinion, it is the height of ego to refuse to make use knowledge that so many others have spent time and effort to teach.

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by manigandham on Sunday February 12, 2017 @05:57PM (#13631614)

The education is paid for, so the "others" who are teaching are earning money, it's not wasted effort.

Knowledge itself doesn't contain any inherent value, it's free if you want to learn it all yourself without depriving anyone else of it. What you're paying for is the academic environment, resources and tutoring of a person. That's a business exchange like any other and everyone is free to spend their money on that, whether they do anything with the results or not.

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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by Baeocystin on Sunday February 12, 2017 @09:38PM (#13632750)

All knowledge learned represents an opportunity cost paid, both in real capital and time consumed in acquisition, both for the students and the educational system as a whole. If nothing is done with it other than acquisition, we as a society lose.

I am not against the viewpoint you present for anything other than what I see as pragmatic reasons. If we lived in a post-scarcity economy, I would agree with you.

But we don't, and we aren't going to be there anytime soon, either. The system we have now loads crippling debt on to students, and one of the reasons it can do so is because of the constraints of supply and demand. Thus, in my opinion, to not do anything with an advanced degree is deeply selfish.

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