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Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by user5994461 on Saturday February 11, 2017 @11:35AM (#13623295)
Index funds, 401k and some stocks exist only in the USA.

They don't exist in most of the western world (e.g. Europe).

Please don't call that "western financial planning"

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by mercutio2 on Saturday February 11, 2017 @11:10PM (#13626661)
Europeans are much less likely to be retail investors, I'll buy.

But there's very little stopping Europeans from buying Vanguard funds or ETFs, so this is a cultural phenomenon, not because of any legal barriers.

http://jlcollinsnh.com/2014/01/27/stocks-part-xxi-investing-...

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by user5994461 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @12:26PM (#13629342)
You must be kidding. Did you even read that article???

It confirm that you need 100k€ to deal with Vanguard Europe directly, that you get double taxation (USA tax then home country tax) on your returns, and you take all the risks on the currency exchange, and that's just the beginning of the article...

So, I'll repeat it again, the USA investments are NOT available in Europe and the equivalents are mostly non existent or sub-par.

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by fulafel on Sunday February 12, 2017 @03:40PM (#13630625)
Retail investing into index funds in Europe is easy and common with domestic providers IME.
Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by allendoerfer on Saturday February 11, 2017 @03:34PM (#13624657)
> Index funds, 401k and some stocks exist only in the USA.

I am not sure whether you are European making fun of the financial system of the USA or an American thinking Europe somehow lives in the stone age.

Of course we have those things. Also there are these things called stock exchanges, were even people from poor, underdeveloped nations like Norway, Switzerland, Denmark, Luxembourg, the Netherlands or Germany are allowed to buy stocks. Even fancy American ones.

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by user5994461 on Saturday February 11, 2017 @07:55PM (#13625905)
None of these.

I am an European who is sad that Vanguard doesn't exist there, and there is no comparable local equivalent.

And no, an European either cannot and/or should not buy American stock.

1) Some stocks are simply not available for trades by your local brokers

2) You cannot use some remote products/brokers because they require you to be an US citizen or resident

3) There are taxations and constraints that makes international stock worthless. For instance, American stocks are taxed by the USA (by USA law) then taxed again by your home EU country (local country law).

P.S. I am sure there are loopholes to get it done if you have more than 10M€ to invest but that's not the case of the majority of people.

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by allendoerfer on Saturday February 11, 2017 @08:50PM (#13626118)
Still there are index funds in Europe, 401k equivalents and you can buy international stocks.

What kind of stocks do you need for your personal financial planning, that you cannot get in Europe? I have heard nice things about Vanguard on HN, but so far have not had any troubles with iShares and the like.

Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by user5994461 on Sunday February 12, 2017 @12:28PM (#13629364)
Dude, Vanguard is not available in Europe. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by drpgq on Saturday February 11, 2017 @03:00PM (#13624460)
Europe doesn't have index funds?
Re:Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruis... by user5994461 on Saturday February 11, 2017 @08:14PM (#13625971)
Long story short: no.

Vanguard, which is the gold standard, almost exclusively operates in the USA. (even though it's registered as a UK company and based in the UK).

As far as I could find in the UK, the closest local equivalent is L&G (Legal and General).

In the rest of Europe, for the few countries I checked, there is nothing comparable whatsoever.