Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by oh_sigh on Friday February 10, 2017 @01:53PM
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Why is that illegal? Why doesn't it just get you kicked from the market if you do it?
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Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by mwfunk on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:14PM
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Because it's financial fraud, and it harms the legitimacy of the market itself and it harms the other people participating in the market. It's not like banning a cheater in a video game, there are real world stakes.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by oh_sigh on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:41PM
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If video games have real world financial stakes(say, for professional eSports players like Dota/LoL), should cheating be punishable by jail time?
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by alasdair_ on Friday February 10, 2017 @04:36PM
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Maybe.
If we are playing poker, and you cheat, you have stolen my money through fraud.
Certainly if I cheat at a casino, I'm likely going to jail.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by al_chemist on Saturday February 11, 2017 @07:46AM
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Bluffing in poker is not cheating, is it? This guy bluffed that he want to sell when he did not.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by oh_sigh on Friday February 10, 2017 @05:37PM
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I believe if you cheat at a casino, you are just banned and kicked out.
Also, perhaps there is a differentiation between working within the mechanics of a system to cheat, and going around a system to cheat. An example from the esports league would be the difference between using a corner case to shoot through a wall, versus hacking into the server and modifying the code.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by cpwright on Friday February 10, 2017 @06:25PM
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If you don't cheat, but do something the casino doesn't approve of you are kicked out. If you actually cheat, and the casino decides it is worth it, you'll have the government come down on you too.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by kolinko on Sunday February 12, 2017 @04:28PM
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It actually is.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by user5994461 on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:12PM
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It kicks you out of the market by sending you to prison.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by sgt101 on Friday February 10, 2017 @02:45PM
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It's a scheme to get money by being dishonest; so it's stealing.
Re:How the Flash Crash Trader’s $50M Fortune Vanished
by VT_Drew on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:48PM
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>get money by being dishonest; so it's stealing.
That isn't the definition of stealing. In fact I would argue, while it is dishonest, it isn't stealing in slightest. Stealing means you took something, without agreement, that rightfully belongs to someone else. The scheme is more accurately described as fraud than stealing.