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Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by zump on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:18AM (#13613977)
It's real talk partly fueled by the anonymity HN offers. Some people, like me, may find themselves wanting to maximize their pay. Period. I don't believe people making this money are one-in-a-kind super geniuses, our system doesn't optimize for that. They are people who made a series of decisions, I want to know what they could be.
Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by bshimmin on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:34AM (#13614034)
Why? Do you think it will make you happy? I used to think money would at least make life easier, but past a certain point (and that point is vastly less than $1m/year), it really doesn't - you just end up spending it on stupid and pointlessly expensive things that mean you have to make more of it in order to be where you were before.

And when you look at the really rich people, like Zuckerberg, Buffett, or Gates, what do they do with their money? Why, they give it away.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by zump on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:52AM (#13614126)
This perspective is common amongst people who are making "enough".

But most people in the world don't. Enough with the moralizing.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by austinjp on Friday February 10, 2017 @05:42AM (#13614501)
Your perspective is odd and not based on evidence. Happiness does not scale linearly in relation to earnings. It tops out around £40k in the UK, if I remember the stat correctly.

Of course, there are outliers, people whose happiness does scale linearly with their earnings. More importantly, I feel, is the vertigo associated with income, the fear and worry of taking a cut in earnings. Lifestyle expands to fit income.

It does not seem that you have considered the why, only the what. Why do you want $1m? Several others have raised this question here. You will be far, far more satisfied if you spend a time considering this in detail.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by clackanon on Sunday February 12, 2017 @01:37PM (#13629755)
Seems to me like you're attributing motives to zump that you have no place doing.

Maybe zump is motivated by generosity. Maybe zump does have plans to share the riches.

You're just guessing. Don't judge.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by thinkloop on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:39AM (#13614067)
They give it away while still keeping millions/billions for themselves. Money is the worst if you give your life for it, but otherwise it's pretty good.
Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by warent on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:34AM (#13614039)
You can easily see what decisions highly successful individuals have made. Executing them doesn't guarantee success. The decisions are a byproduct of a more important abstraction, which is just a mindset.

Be persistent, work exceptionally hard, and think very big.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by karyon on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:35AM (#13614043)
Well, "real talk" doesn't contradict "full of arrogance". In my opinion, maximizing pay just for the sake of accumulating/spending a lot of money is quite unsympathetic, and indeed to some extend arrogant. Unless of course you plan to make a positive impact on others or our planet with that money, but to me your posts don't make that impression.
Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by zump on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:41AM (#13614080)
> Unless of course you plan to make a positive impact on others or our planet with that money, but to me your posts don't make that impression.

I consider this a non-sequitur. Making a lot of money is considered the primary goal in our capitalist society and the sheer mechanics of our economy would guarantee it to be a net positive in all but 99% of cases (i.e burning the pile of money).

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by karyon on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:52AM (#13614129)
> Making a lot of money is considered the primary goal in our capitalist society

It might be the goal of people lacking empathy and people who think happiness comes with money, which is true only up to an amount far below 1M. Unless, again, the money is meant to be given to others. I am not sure what you mean by considering my argument a non-sequitur, could you elaborate?

> the sheer mechanics of our economy would guarantee it to be a net positive

By "Making a positive impact on others" I didn't mean making a positive impact on the economy. I meant helping actual problems like hunger, diseases and pollution.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by zump on Friday February 10, 2017 @04:02AM (#13614161)
> I am not sure what you mean by considering my argument a non-sequitur, could you elaborate?

It shouldn't matter what I do with the money. I don't even have it. The larger point I disagree with is that it's a losing battle to somehow tune their career to fix all the ills of the world, it's better to make as much money as possible to hope that our economy will efficiently distribute the resources for the greater good.

Re:Ask HN: How to make more than $1mn+/yr as a software engi... by austinjp on Friday February 10, 2017 @05:51AM (#13614521)
> it's better to make as much money as possible to hope that our economy will efficiently distribute the resources for the greater good.

This is inaccurate on several levels.

Trickle-down capitalism does not work well. Current mechanisms ensure that an increasingly elite few own the vast majority of resources and means of controlling those resources.

Making a ton of cash personally does not equate with distributing wealth. Taxes and the tax system are poorly organised for this purpose.

If you are serious that you want to work hard in in order to benefit society then perhaps consider health care, politics, farming, irrigation, renewable energy, or even space travel. You can be an engineer in these fields. Don't kid yourself that simply by becoming rich personally that you are a benefit to larger society. The evidence indicates quite the opposite.