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Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by shakna on Thursday February 09, 2017 @08:15AM (#13606649)
I realise PHP can't go away, hence "self-contained bundle".

The docs I referenced are not the official documentation, but rather mind-bendingly bad systems I've had to deal with that were undocumented.

PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

Hide the PHP in a nice self-contained system, and I won't care, plus it'll simplify install/setup.

Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by stephenr on Thursday February 09, 2017 @08:29AM (#13606730)
> PHP isn't necessarily bad. But bad experiences mean I hate it.

It sounds like those experiences were the fault of the developers not some intrinsic issue with the language itself. (i.e. its not like say "i hate flash because its a security shit-fueled nightmare").

Either way, the system currently has an "install script" and aims to develop deb/rpm/etc packages to achieve the same result, which seems like it's what you want.

Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by shakna on Friday February 10, 2017 @07:01AM (#13614776)
Snaps would be more along the lines of what I'm suggesting.

Using the system package manager still pulls down dependencies I don't want system-wide.

Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by stephenr on Friday February 10, 2017 @07:43AM (#13614972)
So, you want unpatched, unmaintained packages on your system?

The only dependencies this should have on eg Debian are PHP, SQLite and the Web Server virtual package.

Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by jameskegel on Thursday February 09, 2017 @12:30PM (#13608818)
How do you feel about PHP7?
Re:Show HN: KISS IDE – A simple web based IDE by shakna on Thursday February 09, 2017 @06:28PM (#13612030)
It goes a long way to making PHP better. Better defaults, better stdlib.