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Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by jjaredsimpson on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:28PM (#13600131)
If I copy all your emails and financial records have I harmed you?

Are you only harmed if I remove your access to those records?

Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by mcdoug on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:36PM (#13600212)
That's yet a different issue. Watching an old episode of Seinfeld does not violate anyone's privacy.

Theft: you have a painting. I took it.

Copyright infringement: You painted a painting. I took a picture of it and sold/gave away prints to all my friends.

Violation of privacy: I got into your phone and looked at all your dick pics.

Warrantless search: The police got into your phone and looked at all your dick pics, possibly finding evidence of a crime.

They are different issues which can look similar at times, but are actually completely separate. Pretending like they are is just adding muck to this discussion.

Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by ramshorns on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @02:44PM (#13601375)
There's one more separate issue.

Piracy: You have a ship. I climbed aboard, murdered some of your crew, and took control of your ship or stole some of your belongings.

Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by grzm on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @07:48PM (#13603651)
English words admit to multiple, distinct definitions.
Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by EpicEng on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @07:46PM (#13603639)
Yes, that's completely the same thing as downloading a movie illegally.
Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by bo1024 on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:58PM (#13600405)
That's an invasion of privacy and violates all kinds of laws and ethical standards.

If you reproduce my song without my consent, that's a violation of a very specific law which allows me a temporary* restriction on your rights. The ethical question raised, I think, is of a very different nature.

*temporary: used to be ~20 years, now is until 70 years after I die.

Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by MrPlow442 on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:51PM (#13600346)
I'd say that by simply copying and reading those emails and financial records you haven't done any harm. If you've used the knowledge gained from those documents to deprive someone of their finances(theft) or any such malicious action I'd say you've harmed the owner of these documents.

Disclaimer: I do not condone piracy, I just believe you've made a logical fallacy.

Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by reloop on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:49PM (#13600329)
These arguments always comes up in these types of discussions. In reality though personal information has far less protection than commercial information. If you take nude pictures of yourself you might as well keep your credit card in frame, since that's essentially the only way someone would be sentenced for copying them later.
Re:Five arrests in 'fully loaded' Kodi streaming box raids by AtheistOfFail on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @12:36PM (#13600203)
No. If you begin committing identity theft, Yes.