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Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by wwwdonohue on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:30PM (#13593007)
Except all of the actual journalism being done on the Trump administration suggests incompetence, not malice, to be at the heart of its struggles.
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by pdx on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:44PM (#13593115)

    > Except all of the actual journalism being done on 
    > the Trump administration suggests incompetence, not malice
I don't believe the journalists are incompetent. I believe there is actual malice there. No amount of incompetance can explain how they always say "muslim ban" and "7 muslim countries" instead of ever referring to the 'Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015' [1], where all of those countries were originally classified as 'countries of concern'.

The 'journalism' shows large amounts of malice. It's not just incompetence.

[1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-tr...

Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by mikeash on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:45PM (#13593137)
I think using the President's own words to describe his order is entirely reasonable.
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by pdx on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:49PM (#13593184)
He said that in his signing statement, or in some other speech referring to the executive order? Where's your link?
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by mikeash on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:52PM (#13593213)
It was not a public statement, but was used behind the scenes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/29/tr...
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by pdx on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @05:08PM (#13593355)
Hearsay evidence from Giuliani, as told to us by The Washington Post.

Are you aware that Jeff Bezos controls the Washington Post, and is rapidly anti-Trump? It is clear to many that the Washington Post has a leaning in all of it's political journalism that borders on MSNBC levels of bias.

Got anything else?

Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by narrowrail on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @05:33PM (#13593574)
There is a video of Giuliani saying these things, so if you would like to see it, just do a search. In fact, it is a (possibly the) critical argument being made in the legal case this evening.
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by jokermatt999 on Wednesday February 08, 2017 @10:57AM (#13599186)
Giuliani literally said on Fox News. Watch the actual video, don't just complain about media bias. The evidence is right there in the linked article.

“I'll tell you the whole history of it,” Giuliani responded eagerly. “So when [Trump] first announced it, he said, 'Muslim ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.' "

Better source for you?

Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by mikeash on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @05:11PM (#13593398)
I doubt Giuliani was misquoted, or he would have trumpeted it from the rooftops. So your complaints about the Post don't come into it. I think Giuliani can be believed here.
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by mikeash on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @04:45PM (#13593127)
There's definitely a lot of incompetence, but I don't think it's the whole story. The fact that the White House explicitly clarified to DHS that green card holders were included, for example, suggests malice.
Re:The Immigration Ban Is a Headfake, and We’re Falling for It by r00fus on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @05:21PM (#13593468)
Does it matter if it's evil or extreme incompetence? Grey's law applies - they have the same result.