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Re:In Defense of C++ by duneroadrunner on Monday February 06, 2017 @11:08PM (#13586928)
Yeah, that's my point. Even though, unlike C++, (safe) Rust was designed to be (memory) safe from the start, it's notable that Rust and C++ end up (or will soon end up) in the same place - a "usable" safe language and an unsafe superset of that language. It's notable because before C++11, memory safe subsets of C++ could be considered not really "usable". But since the advent of C++11, there are memory safe subsets of C++ that are comparable to Rust in usability and performance [1].

[1] https://github.com/duneroadrunner/SaferCPlusPlus#safercplusp...

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Re:In Defense of C++ by none_for_me_thx on Monday February 06, 2017 @11:39PM (#13587081)
I should have said I think you are operating under false assumptions, are making invalid comparisons, and are therefore drawing unwarranted conclusions.

I think you might be confused about what Rust offers and from where Rust's safety is derived. There is no "safe subset" of Rust. As far as I know, that is a nonsense phrase.

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Re:In Defense of C++ by dbaupp on Tuesday February 07, 2017 @12:45AM (#13587363)
I think nonsense is rather too strong: Rust-banning-`unsafe` is a subset of the full language accepted by the compiler, and is safe. It isn't rare that people talk about the subset of Rust ignoring `unsafe`.
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