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Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by gaius on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:36AM (#1357254)
Right, but the term "climate change skeptic" ought not to exist, because following the evidence where it leads ought to be default position of everyone.

Also it's interesting that in that particular debate, there are "deniers" but no "zealots". It's only one side that feels the need to label the others. That ought to set the alarm bells ringing.

Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by phenwoods on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:48AM (#1357286)
You are kidding, right? You've never heard someone use a term like "alarmist", "warmist" or "true believer" applied to those who accept the evidence for AGW?
Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by Tichy on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:44AM (#1357268)
Bot sides accuse the other side of all sorts of things. Your statement is simply false.

In fact, doesn't a denier automatically, by his mere existence, claim that "the others" are "zealots"?

Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by numeromancer on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @10:20AM (#1357499)
No.
Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by ErrantX on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:47AM (#1357279)
> the term "climate change skeptic" ought not to exist, because following the evidence where it leads ought to be default position of everyone.

True enough. However coming to a discussion with no opinion is next ot impossible for someone to do. It's reasonable to imagine someone who follows the evidence will have a pre-conception of what the answer is.

What sets him/her apart is a willingness to be proven wrong (or even just a bit less right).

Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by phenwoods on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:51AM (#1357292)
Re:Living in denial: When a sceptic isn't a sceptic by DanielBMarkham on Tuesday May 18, 2010 @08:40AM (#1357263)
Yes. I tried to say that, but looks like I failed.

If you already know the answer to some complex issue that is not direct, hard science, then you are cognitively limiting yourself. If it's reproducible and demonstrable, of course, then we can still remain properly agnostic and rely on induction to save the day. If it is not, we have to be very, very careful about what our hidden assumptions are.