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Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by striking on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:10PM (#13568450)
I mean, you stated it pretty clearly yourself. How would a recommendation system rivaling YouTube's work in a decentralized fashion?

There's also the fact that people spend a lot of time, effort, and money making these videos. How would they get paid by a decentralized system?

I want to decentralize too, absolutely. But I'm at a loss as to how we'd accomplish it in a way that ultimately benefits society instead of making an inferior product.

Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by Taek on Saturday February 04, 2017 @03:23PM (#13568831)
The recommendation engine I'm not sure. Reputation systems or upvote based aggregation seems like a decent first step though.

Payment is easy if the publisher has a machine online to accept micropayments through something like the lightning network. Maybe there's a way you could make micropayments work through an email-style system or through a delegation system.

I don't think these problems are 10 year problems, I think a good team with a determined attitude could design it in one or two years (coding aside).

Making a direct YouTube replacement is probably not the best use of time though. Instead improving the building blocks or creating a system where at least the data itself is decentralized is probably better. The decentralized replacement for YouTube likely won't be a clone, just as YouTube is not really a clone of traditional TV, yet still has replaced it in many ways.

Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by CaptSpify on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:20PM (#13568500)
> How would they get paid by a decentralized system?

Is something like Patreon tied to youtube? Could you fund someone on vimeo or your own website with it?

Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by RileyKyeden on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:44PM (#13568639)
Patreon doesn't support video uploads, at least as an embed. You can embed them from other sites and (I think) attach them to posts as downloads, but that's it.
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by CaptSpify on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:59PM (#13568721)
But can you pull your videos from anywhere, or is it tied specifically to youtube?
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by RileyKyeden on Saturday February 04, 2017 @03:22PM (#13568824)
I think it supports all the big video hosts. There's a box to paste a video URL, and it's labeled "Embed support for YouTube, Vimeo, and more."
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by CaptSpify on Saturday February 04, 2017 @03:34PM (#13568892)
So it sounds like you could just run your videos on vimeo, or (even better) build and host your own videos and get paid.
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by eitland on Saturday February 04, 2017 @07:09PM (#13569915)
How would a recommendation system rivaling YouTube's work in a decentralized fashion?

We used to have web rings. We used to follow people that posted interesting stuff and weren't too annoying, either manually or by rss.

No reason it can't be done afain I think.

How would they get paid by a decentralized system?

By editing in a sponsor message in the film? By adding a few pngs with links to sponsors?

Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by luke-stanley on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:15PM (#13568476)
Maybe at least mirroring YouTube videos would be a good start.
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by bravomartin on Saturday February 04, 2017 @02:21PM (#13568511)
blockchain technologies enable large decentralized systems.
Re:YouTube removes hundreds of the best climate science vide... by dualogy on Saturday February 04, 2017 @04:30PM (#13569187)
Yeah 'enable' but they clearly don't seem to drive mass adoption in and of themselves