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Re:The woes of Windows 10 by ocdtrekkie on Thursday February 02, 2017 @01:58PM (#13553368)
Is Windows XP still "good enough"? Even if it still got security fixes, the actual security model it was built on is definitively no longer adequate for the modern world. I'd very much argue Windows 7 is rapidly falling into that territory as well. It's easy to make this "forever Windows 7" argument today, just like it used to be that people could say they were never leaving XP.

But in reality, we're rapidly approaching the point where we absolutely need to be able to sandbox apps and segregate them from the platform like with UWP.

While the basic functionality of the OS you need may not change much, the constantly moving target of security definitely will, and both 8 and 10 introduced significant improvements in security.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by Klathmon on Thursday February 02, 2017 @02:18PM (#13553575)
And before that people were vowing never to upgrade to XP, and before that people said 98 would be the last version of windows they would ever run...
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by pessimizer on Thursday February 02, 2017 @02:23PM (#13553622)
The difference is that after XP, the majority of users didn't upgrade.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by scholia on Thursday February 02, 2017 @07:12PM (#13556367)
Windows 7 did get a majority of the Windows market.

Windows 10 will get a majority of the Windows market. In fact, in some areas -- the USA and the UK, for example -- Windows 10 overtook Windows 7 late last year, on StatCounter's numbers.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by CamperBob2 on Thursday February 02, 2017 @07:51PM (#13556641)
Yes, when you trick and manipulate users into upgrading, it results in a substantial short-term boost in market share.
Re:The woes of Windows 10 by scholia on Friday February 03, 2017 @02:12PM (#13562349)
I don't think moving people from one version of Windows to another counts as an increase in market share.

And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by CamperBob2 on Saturday February 04, 2017 @05:21PM (#13569456)
And since they gave away a free upgrade for the life of the device, at a considerable cost in terms of servers and bandwidth, it wasn't profiteering either.

Pro tip: when a for-profit company does something that appears to be uncharacteristically altruistic...

...Aw, heck, you know what? Never mind. Enjoy the garden.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by scholia on Monday February 06, 2017 @12:06AM (#13576637)
There were advantages for users and advantages for Microsoft. Both sides won.

As for your "garden", anybody can build their own Windows PC and sell it, without restriction. Anybody can write Windows software, and sell it. Anybody can use a Windows PC and software for any purpose they choose.

If you want to attack people for restrictions, you can find far more of them in other parts of the tech world.

Re:The woes of Windows 10 by bsder on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:00PM (#13554613)
> Is Windows XP still "good enough"?

If you have hardware that only runs in XP you don't care.

I have more than a few Windows 7 installations that are nothing but hosts for virtual machines that run XP.