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Re:Fake News Challenge by enraged_camel on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:31PM (#13544794)
The difference is that when NYTimes gets something wrong, it is not out of sheer malice and desire to mislead people. It's because their sources were wrong and the journalists didn't do a good enough job verifying the information.

Fake news on the other hand are literally made up lies. The overwhelming majority of fake news articles have no basis in reality, period. They tend to be written by people who want nothing other than to get page views.

Re:Fake News Challenge by untog on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @05:25PM (#13545999)
You're getting downvoted for this and I don't think you should be. The recent flood of fake news is very different to honest reporting that fails, and even very different to opinion-led reporting that presents a side. It is deliberately factually incorrect news, created and promoted simply to get clicks and profit from advertising. There is absolutely no journalistic merit to it.
Re:Fake News Challenge by icebraining on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @07:55PM (#13547077)
I didn't downvote, but one can agree that the two approaches are very different, without accepting the presumption of the intentions behind the NYT approach. Are they more honest, or do they just happen to serve a different audience?

After all, telling outright lies is just amateurish; the NYT has been shaping society's perspective on facts for over a century.

Re:Fake News Challenge by imron on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:06PM (#13547139)
> The difference is that when NYTimes gets something wrong, it is not out of sheer malice and desire to mislead people

That's right, because when Wikileaks revealed high levels of collusion between media outlets and the DNC/Clinton campaign, placing and pulling articles/stories to present a specific narrative, it wasn't out of desire to mislead, rather it was only a desire to 'correct the record'. /s

Re:Fake News Challenge by intended on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @09:58PM (#13547711)
Which is still business as usual and has solutions elsewhere.

America and the world have a situation where advertisers need to prey on the Id and emotions of users in order to sell widgets. The advent of the internet crushed the ability of media firms to stay afloat and replaced the ecosystem with many upstarts who also faced the same pressure.

In short there's an overheating attention grabbing system when it comes to the media, which is its own issue that needs to be solved.

Unfortunately there's a new hitherto unbelievable problem, where people fabricate complete and utter lies/fiction and can sail it down the streams of social media.

This is different from the older issue in that these are not major news agencies, but websites masquerading/camouflaging themselves as a news outlet and fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts.

A closer model is conspiracy theories.

Re:Fake News Challenge by imron on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:05PM (#13547750)
> fabricating stories designed to directly press emotional buttons without having to deal with facts.

I agree this is a problem. It also happened rather equally on both sides.

Re:Fake News Challenge by intended on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:33PM (#13547877)
The sides don't matter.

If you really want to know how it works, please take a look at a recent a paper co-authored by Alessandro Bessi. It came out a week ago. It should be accessible for most people on HN.