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Re:The JVM is not that heavy by vmarovic on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:17PM (#13544659)
"For both Node and Ruby you need a C compiler on the system which is hundreds of megabytes alone." Wait what? What c compiler is hundreds of megabytes?
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Re:The JVM is not that heavy by makapuf on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:24PM (#13544730) 

  $ ls -sh /usr/bin/gcc-5
  896K /usr/bin/gcc-5

  $ ldd /usr/bin/gcc-5 
	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007ffc64bf5000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fda3da4f000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000055f2460a1000)
(so no specific .so dependencies)

And why would you need that in production ? (hint: use fpm)

This article seems strange : why do you include xcode in npm ? why use a mac if it's that heavy ? sure an IDE is nice but I wouldn't take that as part of the language. Or also include eclipse + plugins.

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Re:The JVM is not that heavy by noselasd on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:47PM (#13544963)
I certainly agree that you don't need that for production machines.

However /usr/bin/gcc is just a frontend, and calls a slew of other binaries(such as cpp, collect2, cc1, normally found somewhere in /usr/libexec/gcc/). You also need binutils, and to be useful, likely headers for at least the standard C library.

The gcc + binutils package comes up at around 75MB on my machine.

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Re:The JVM is not that heavy by makapuf on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:11AM (#13549166)
I stand corrected - duh of course I should have added called binaries. So it seems 100M is the right ballpark.
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Re:The JVM is not that heavy by PeCaN on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @04:45PM (#13545594)
You're measuring the size of a program that calls GCC, not GCC itself at all. gcc-5 isn't the compiler, it dispatches to cpp/cc1/ld/etc.

cc1 is 20MB over here. gold is 5MB. Dynamic libraries it depends on (gmp & family, isl) weigh about 4MB. All-in-all the programs required to compile even a simple C program come out around ~32MB.

Clang is much bigger. Clang 3.8 is 59MB (I think that includes the preprocessor though, but GNU's CPP is only around 1MB (which still seems huge for a preprocessor)).

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