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Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by 3pt14159 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @07:33AM (#13540183)
Or you could also enforce that all characters that look similar become unavailable.

For example, thèta.com might be a French fighter jet company, while théta.com could be very easily confused as the same thing, especially to non-French speakers. So I think registering that weird version of google.com should never have been possible, since the Gs could obviously be confused by a layman.

Also, in general I think web browsers need to be more machine learning backed. The browser should warn you when you're about to do something dumb or when you're reading lie-based propaganda. We're trying to teach laymen to be intelligent enough to check for HTTPS and to be discerning enough to figure out what news is false, but I don't think a majority of our population is able to do so.

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by NamTaf on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @09:00AM (#13540723)
That doesn't really help, though, because now you ask eg: a Cyrillic speaker to use Latin characters in place of their own characters that are different but simply look the same. That's like us expecting Germans to use B instead of ß (I know it's not a close example, but it's the first that came to mind for me) even though ß translates to a 'ss' sound, which is nothing like a B sound. so 'heißt' goes from 'heisst' to 'heibt'.

Enforcing all of one subset makes more sense to me, though even that's not foolproof because the above example uses both B and ß in the same language. But at least it'll reduce the attack surface, I guess.

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by SeanLuke on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @09:34AM (#13540971)
I don't see what the problem is. For example, you could do this: create a string->"final string" hash function, where heißt and heibt both hash to the same final string (let's say it's HEIBT). You're only allowed to register final strings. If I create a company called heißt.com, then going to heibt.com (or HeIbT.com, hêìbŤ.com, or whatever) will also go to that same domain. A company can use heißt.com if it likes, or hêìbŤ.com, or whatever it prefers. But a spammer can't create a lookalike string. Why wouldn't this work?
Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by 3pt14159 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:28AM (#13541401)
It would work, and it is exactly what I recommended. He just didn't understand what I was asking for.
Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by toufka on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:49AM (#13541587)
So like a lexical DNS service for figuring out DNS names.

A Domain Name Name Service - DNNS!

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by syberspace on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:13AM (#13540434)
why yes, let's cram machine learning into everything so people don't have to learn anymore. Learning is boring and takes so much time. /s

I don't understand the love for voluntary infantilism. Why is it such an impossibility to have to learn a system before using it? I don't think anybody here would argue that using a keyboard is too difficult. But couldn't we just back it with machine learning and let that algorithm figure out what we want to type when we just hit random keys?

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by drzaiusapelord on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:42AM (#13541514)
>I don't understand the love for voluntary infantilism.

Because people seek leisure and ease and going against that means the competitor who recognizes this is going to beat you. Also on a more pedantic front, did you write your own operating system or create your own cpu? What does "learning the system" mean here? Its arbitrary. Even a hard code dev today would seem like a child to the guys in the 60s who had to do literally everything by hand.

>I don't think anybody here would argue that using a keyboard is too difficult.

Ever watch someone learn a keyboard for the first time? Its painful. The common layouts are questionable and lots of keys are extraneous. I dont need a sysrq or break key, thanks. Look at mobile. When I use a mobile device I either use voice or a swipe keyboard. When I'm at home I use my Google Home and Amazon Fire via voice instead of a hunt and peck virtual keyboard. Keyboards are actually fairly terrible, but right now for a lot of tasks are the least of the worst.

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by 3pt14159 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:32AM (#13541441)
I don't love it, but I'm a realist. People have shown time and time again that they get sucked into stupid conspiracy theories and anti-intellectualism. They don't know basic facts like who is the VP of the USA or the leader of the UK.

At some point informed people just throw up their hands and start making it harder for people to hurt themselves or others.

Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by BrandoElFollito on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:13PM (#13544610)
Sorry but the Vice-President of the US is some peripheral guy or gal for us who are not in the US. Sure, the POTUS is obviously one of the key people in the world but the VP is not. I belive that not much people will know who the president of Italy or Germany is. In Europe we know (*conditions apply) but I would not expect anyone outside our region to have heard about Mr Gauck.
Re:Google Is Battling a Russian Spammer Over the Use of the ... by Bjartr on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:57AM (#13540701)
You say that in jest, but that's basically what the Swype keyboard does, ML and all.