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Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by prawn on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @02:35AM (#13539053)
I'm not from the US, but I love the landscapes there and visit fairly frequently to hike and camp.

Aren't there differences between public use of national parks and BLM land? e.g., most national parks have quite strict rules for camping, while the BLM areas are much more flexible and relaxed? Personally, I think it's great that the two options exist and are distinct. I don't want to discount your general point, but more so wonder if ALL of that land should be set aside for purely private or NP use.

(Arches NP has put backcountry camping on hold. In the best areas of Zion NP, there are fixed camp sites that are quickly reserved in advance, or camping is not permitted. Tourist attractions are getting busier and busier with each year, so BLM options for backcountry overflow make sense to me.)

I'd be worried that it's easier/cheaper to privatise these lands than the reverse.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by dchichkov on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:21AM (#13539241)
There are differences, for example flying ultralight aircraft (hang-gliders, paragliders) is prohibited in the national parks.

Private land in the US is barb wired, often with no access at all. (This is different from private land in Europe, where the norm is that a forest, in private hands would not be barb wired, and there are sometimes easements for recreational use.)

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by prawn on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:37PM (#13547280)
There is a great 99PI podcast about barbed wire, in case you haven't heard it. Talks about the freedom to roam and the limitations that arose after the American West was settled. I find those desert and grazing lands pretty magical, so I can sympathise with the romantic ideals of travelling, camping carefully, moving on, etc.

Devil's Rope: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/devils-rope/

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by TYPE_FASTER on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @09:28AM (#13540926)
Yes, there are differences.

The freedom of BLM land makes it great.

Once these spaces are privatized, there's no going back.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by waterphone on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:47AM (#13541559)
National Forest and BLM are very permissive for backcountry camping, while National Parks generally restrict you to permitted and designated campsites, if it's allowed at all.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by prawn on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:34PM (#13547262)
I think that's awesome. The idea that someone can "go bush" and camp out for a week or two without cost or human contact is something we should absolutely preserve.

I love national parks, but the restrictions (while necessary for something that popular/unique) remove a bit of the joy from a natural experience.

Even a more permissive national park (Joshua Tree, for example) feels like a relief after something stricter like Zion or Arches. That said, I can understand why they are very careful with those latter two because they are seriously special places.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by waterphone on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:47PM (#13547350)
There is very much a place for both. National Parks have that designation for a reason, and they attract huge numbers of people. Management of areas with high visitation has to be much more strict to protect those areas. But we're fortunate to have vast amounts of public land we can disperse across, so those who want more freedom to explore and recreate without permits or requirements to camp in very specific places can do so.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by lend000 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @12:42PM (#13542923)
Sounds like we need a new designation for "general recreation land" or "wild park" instead of keeping everything under the BLM where land can be arbitrarily used and leased by the government.