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Re:Welcome, ACLU by uabstraction on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:36PM (#13537682)
"it's irresponsible to call defending borders racist when there are other reasonable and less incendiary explanations."

I haven't heard one single reasonable explanation for why the US taxpayers should put $15 BILLION (before budget overflows and deadline pushbacks) into this wall. Until it is remotely justifiable, a knee-jerk monument to collective racism and xenophobia is ALL it is.

Starting a trade war with Mexico so we can say they paid for it though creative accounting will hurt our economy and cost the working class much more than a simple crackdown on employers exploiting illegal immigrants.

Re:Welcome, ACLU by wernercd on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:30PM (#13538248)
Considering you can find Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Obama and various other Democrats calling for secure borders and barriers of various sorts throughout the years...

It wasn't racism and xenophobic when it was called for then... Bill got a standing ovation from both sides when he made his speech...

What's changed about wanting those things?

Re:Welcome, ACLU by camel_Snake on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:13AM (#13539203)
100% my opinion here, but based on what I've read and heard so far a physical wall is a terrible way to actually prevent illegal immigration. Most illegal immigrants arrive legally but just remain illegally.

But you know what a big wall is? A symbol. It's my opinion that the purpose of the wall is not to actually 'secure our borders' but to act as a symbol that those to the south are not as welcome as before.

Re:Welcome, ACLU by mistermann on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:32PM (#13538262)
Leaving the $15 BILLION aside for now, are you able to see any reason for having a wall at all?