Re:Welcome, ACLU
by TheOsiris on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @05:08PM
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Should a Jewish restaurant be compelled to serve neo-nazis wearing Nazi uniforms?
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Assuming the neo-nazis are there just to eat and not to stir up a fight, I would say yes. But I'm not sure it's legal to walk around in Nazi uniforms.
Probably not. That's a very different situation. Neo-nazis make a choice to be neo-nazis.
So, according to your argument, it should be ok to denny someone service based on their religion as well.
Yeah I suppose. Religion is often not really chosen, but kind of forced onto a person early in life. I suppose the same is likely true for neo Nazis though.
Do you think that would be okay? Are you asking a question?
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by humanrebar on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:40PM
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People don't pick whether God exists.
Of course they do. It's impossible to know whether or not God exists based on physical evidence; that's why religion is based on faith and not scientific research. People choose their religious beliefs, or (much more commonly) have them chosen for them. That's faith.
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by humanrebar on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @09:06AM
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You make your best guess about whether God exists. You don't choose if it's true.
Also, faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion".
> faith means "trust", not "irrational opinion".
Not quite, faith means "trust" in an "irrational opinion". Howerver, everyone should have the right to trust whatever opinion rational or irrational.
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by humanrebar on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:46AM
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If you want to be precise, it means "trust in a person" in the original Greek. As in, the New England Patriots have faith in Bill Belichick.
That sort of faith can absolutely be rational.
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by camel_Snake on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:03AM
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Exactly why you can't discriminate based upon religion.
Of course people do. That's why there are many religions with many different gods.
Sure they do; it's all in their head.
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by ScottBurson on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @12:10PM
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Yes, I think they should, if they could somehow be confident that their guests would dine in peace and not make trouble. The fact that such confidence could be hard to come by shows that this situation is not really analogous to the wedding photographer situation. You'd have to flip it around to get a better analogy: should a neo-Nazi restaurant be compelled to serve Jews? Clearly yes.
Re:Welcome, ACLU
by eli_gottlieb on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:57PM
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Compelled? Well, are there police present to stop the Nazis assaulting the Jews?