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Re:Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker by frik on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:46AM (#13528052)
If you own a VW/Seat/Skoda/Audi diesel car in US, you can give your car back and get your money. In EU, VW promises to fix the car by adding a 5cent placebo plastic pipe and a software update which lowers the performance and increases the diesel consumption (physics after all). In US VW has to pay billions, in EU VW has to pay nothing to speak of. Of course the German government is involved in this company as shareholder and probably knew about the cheating and probably the EU laws for diesel were altered some years ago because of this company. One would assume a more strict law enforcement that split that company into separate smaller VW, Sear, Skoda and Audi companies and disallow them to use that old Audi Diesel engine from the 1980s that causes the troubles. And one would assume VW has to be fine and pay to each state were the poisoned the inhabitants with their diesel fume. And oe would assume that TUV or whoever certified and tested the cars get fined as well.
Re:Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker by lyschoening on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @05:10AM (#13529250)
You ignore that emission standards in Europe were less strict when it came to diesel pollution, so that 5cent placebo plastic pipe makes the cars compliant there. Emissions standards in Europe focused on C02 emissions and not so much on the toxic byproducts of diesel combustion. That's why the scandal is not such a big issue for Volkswagen in Europe.
Re:Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker by sib on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:07AM (#13531102)
I don't think that GP was ignoring it: "Of course the German government is involved in this company as shareholder and probably knew about the cheating and probably the EU laws for diesel were altered some years ago because of this company" - the point is that the EU car companies big into diesel specifically worked to have this pollution be made less critical in emissions testing...
Re:Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker by lyschoening on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:51AM (#13532349)
The thing is diesel was pushed because of its low CO2 emissions and lower cost at the pump. Of course the German government wants to protect German auto companies now, but EU laws are comparatively lax on NOx emissions in part because the focus used to be entirely on CO2 emissions.
Re:Volkswagen overtakes Toyota as the world's biggest carmaker by PunchTornado on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:46AM (#13530042)
the laws are not the same in EU and USA. especially the laws regarding emissions