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Re:Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home fo... by akiselev on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:30AM (#13522527)
Right, until that other country elects an orange demagogue that utilizes popular discontent to demonize you and cut off that flow of talent, regardless of the mutually assured harm. Societies are fickle, especially in times of war or increasing tensions. A well maintained local talent pool and industrial capacity subsidized against foreign economic forces are not.

Relying on other nations is the exact opposite of national security and it's naive to think that they will be by our side when shit hits the fan. We've seen too much in the last hundred years to leave our most critical industries to chance.

Re:Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home fo... by 794CD01 on Monday January 30, 2017 @05:13PM (#13525553)
The movement of labor and ideas also means that there is no shortage of educated people to speak out against said orange demagogue's terrible policies. And most peoples' postmortems of the election agree that the election was close enough that higher immigration (or even better distribution of existing immigrants) would likely have kept him out of office.
Re:Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home fo... by jimmywanger on Monday January 30, 2017 @06:03PM (#13525917)
> higher immigration (or even better distribution of existing immigrants) would likely have kept him out of office.

Only importing immigrants who have political views that agree with yours? A country has a particular culture and set of views. Why would we want to import people from countries with inferior living conditions and follow the way they do things? There's a reason they left.

Re:Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home fo... by 794CD01 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:52AM (#13530974)
No, the presence of immigrants who have political views that disagree with me would be even better.

As for why let people in from poor countries, because we are siphoning off the most educated and ambitions people from that country, who bring their drive and good genes to our country. It's the same reason Asians, who consist of the top people in their home countries who chose to came here, do better in the US than blacks, who were brought here by slavers.

Re:Trump’s Next Move on Immigration to Hit Closer to Home fo... by jimmywanger on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @01:55AM (#13538902)
> As for why let people in from poor countries,

What part of the point "let people in from poor countries, but don't let them keep doing things the way they were doing them" is not clear? Sure they want to move here, don't let them turn this place into the place they left by making them learn the language and culture.

>It's the same reason Asians, who consist of the top people in their home countries who chose to came here

That is an incorrect statement. Most asians who first came to america were imported as cheap labor to compete against Irish unskilled labor. The Polish, Irish, and Italian who came to the states were definitely not the best and brightest, but because they assimilated and learned the culture prospered.