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Re:Silicon Valley's Ambivalence Towards Trump Turns to Anger by a_j_c on Sunday January 29, 2017 @11:05PM (#13518544)
I'm so tired of seeing all the blog posts and comments that think our problems are due to Trump and Republicans instead of taking a look at our own "progressive" party. Sure, Trump and the GOP are fucked up, but so are the Dems and the tech community seemed perfectly fine fawning over our "tech president" when he was bailing out the billionaires, expanding state surveillance powers, and ordering the murder of thousands with drones.

Whenever I mention how the corporate Dems have been selling us out for years and we need to light a fire under their ass to work for our interests, I'm immediately ostracized from my fellow "progressives."

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Re:Silicon Valley's Ambivalence Towards Trump Turns to Anger by grzm on Sunday January 29, 2017 @11:11PM (#13518573)
I can see what you're against. What are you for? What do you support? In particular now? For example, are you happy with the Executive Order regarding immigration?
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Re:Silicon Valley's Ambivalence Towards Trump Turns to Anger by mc32 on Sunday January 29, 2017 @11:53PM (#13518781)
The biggest thing against Hillary, geopolitically, was her hawkishness and the posture against a nuclear Russia. Obama-Putin was very rocky. Hillary-Putin would have been an abysmal and possibly dangerous relationship.

Avoiding a hot war in Eastern Europe is worth the people affected by the new immigration bans.

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Re:Silicon Valley's Ambivalence Towards Trump Turns to Anger by JPLeRouzic on Monday January 30, 2017 @02:11AM (#13519205)
In the past there was also people willing to deal with Germany when it tried to invade parts of Czechoslovakia. We can see how it was successful.[0]

I am in favor of peace as it is the best state for humanity to strive. But to maintain peace, we must have a good strategy, not a call to people like Putin such as "Please do anything you like".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

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Re:Silicon Valley's Ambivalence Towards Trump Turns to Anger by mc32 on Monday January 30, 2017 @10:48PM (#13527404)
It's about striking a balance and it looks like some of Putin's actions were due to his thinking he was "provoked" by Nato expansion into his backyard and his being an authoritarian could not allow himself to look like a supplicant or submissive to Us action in the area so he goes about and dusts things up a bit.

I think Obama and his advisers sorely missed someone like a Condoleezza or a Cohen, etc. people who would give him some good insight into Putin's thinking and why he acts the way he does.

I mean, at the end of the Obama presidency US-Russia relations were hotting up beyond my comfort.

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