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Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by rayiner on Sunday January 29, 2017 @09:06PM (#13518150)
Do I want more critical, evidence-based thinking, or more decent human beings who want to serve rather than play god? I wasn't thrilled with say Cass Sunstein's ideas when he was appointed by Obama.
Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by Broken_Hippo on Sunday January 29, 2017 @09:17PM (#13518194)
Why does it need to be either/or?

To me, being a decent human being who wants to serve rather than play god is a minimum requirement for public service. I also want that person to be able to think critically and base policy on evidence (when there is evidence to be had). Sometimes, these things even overlap: For example, criminal justice.

Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by thinkloop on Sunday January 29, 2017 @09:25PM (#13518223)
The problem is the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Everyone thinks they're decent.

Few would disagree that reducing illegal immigration is OK, the issue is ordering a wall with little consideration of costs, effectiveness, game theory, political reactions, etc. The hard stuff.

Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by grzm on Sunday January 29, 2017 @10:57PM (#13518517)
I wasn't thrilled with say Cass Sunstein's ideas when he was appointed by Obama.

Would you expand on this? I was quite impressed with what I read in Nudge. Did any of this practical thinking carry over to OIRA? Or was that perhaps part of the problem?

Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by rayiner on Sunday January 29, 2017 @11:25PM (#13518646)
It's impressive, but falls into the "playing God" bucket for me.
Re:Urge President Trump to give scientists a seat at the table by grzm on Sunday January 29, 2017 @11:30PM (#13518674)
Gotcha. I'll admit I was hoping for more, but I can understand not wanting to get into it in a comment. Can you point me to a critique (your own, or someone else's) of Sunstein that would elaborate on this for me, in particular his work under Obama?