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Re:Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell a... by astrodust on Saturday January 28, 2017 @01:20AM (#13505211)
> Instead, we have this bizarre situation where Apple is delivering underpowered and overpriced machines.

Underpowered for you. Overpriced for you.

Maybe they're not being made for you. Now perhaps this is Apple's mistake, but the fact is they're chasing after a market that's not you. It's people who don't care that the notebook is $2K, that the CPU isn't the best it could possibly be. They're buying more than just specs and a low price tag.

> They're ...overkill for people...

So are they underpowered or overpowered? Make up your mind, man! Is a Ferrari a better car than a Civic because it can go faster? Is a Ford F-150 terrible because it doesn't have low-profile tires and a rear engine?

Apple is just one vendor of many, we have options as consumers, and some people like their products.

A $2K notebook is not expensive, every vendor makes one at that price point and most have astonishingly terrible trackpads. A $3K notebook carries a premium, but it's a luxury product. It's not intended to be cheap.

Apple's mistake might be not differentiating their product line properly, for actually splitting out the actual "Pro" as in professional from "Pro" as in "Pro-sumer". Having to make one model that will sell in the millions of units does impose a lot of constraints.

Dell makes a bazillion different models of laptop, they can afford to take chances, but they also churn them over quickly. Apple doesn't roll that way, not today anyway. They prefer to focus on keeping the product line lean, and really get behind a few good models.

Maybe this is going to hurt them in the long run. We'll see.

Re:Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell a... by redwall_hp on Saturday January 28, 2017 @04:05AM (#13505561)
>So are they underpowered or overpowered? Make up your mind, man!

Not sure if you have bad reading comprehension or if you're just omitting text to support your argument.

They're underpowered for me. They're underpowered for people who need a "real" computer. For the people they're aiming the new portable at, they're completely overkill and completely overpriced. They're the new MacBook Air, essentially.

Re:Mac sales declined nearly 10% last year as Lenovo, Dell a... by xiaoma on Saturday January 28, 2017 @04:57AM (#13505650)
For me, they're both underpowered and overpowered. I don't need or even want a touchbar or the flattest keys ever to be placed in a laptop. The high resolution displays are nice, though they've probably shot past the point I'd care enough more about to spend more on. On the other hand, I want more RAM and a nicer GPU than they offer. A larger hard drive would be nice, too.

Consequently, macs have become overpriced, overpowered and underpowered for me.