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Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by Zach_the_Lizard on Friday January 27, 2017 @08:05AM (#13499512)
I'm a bit of a special case--I'm an American military brat. I was born in the US but lived overseas before I could form a memory until I was a teenager.

I, too, had dreams of America being a beacon of progress and freedom. It was my nominal homeland but one I'd never experienced. I was proud of it and loved that other nations looked up to us.

But now that dream is dead. We're perfecting the surveillance state I was told would be impossible.

Now I look at Europe, and while I disagree with a great deal of its economic policies, I wonder if the grass just might be greener on the other side.

Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by rayiner on Friday January 27, 2017 @08:24AM (#13499602)
Well not in the U.K. Not Germany: http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/06/22/194299389/P....

Which European countries have less domestic surveillance than the US?

Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by ugos on Friday January 27, 2017 @09:24AM (#13499923)
Switzerland (though it's not really a EU member) had a "votation" where people decided to expand some surveillance power, ProtonMail blog post about it : https://protonmail.com/blog/swiss-surveillance-law/ . Yet I think Switzerland is still not too bad in terms of privacy but for how long...
Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by mmjaa on Friday January 27, 2017 @08:44AM (#13499720)
Austria.
Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by patrickk on Friday January 27, 2017 @09:24AM (#13499928)
Ireland too. We (essentially) don't have a military, let alone a budget line item for US-style mass surveillance projects. We're non-NATO, non-five eyes (or it's derivatives) and have a strong mechanism in place to preserve our neutrality (see "triple lock"[1]).

Being in the EU allowed this[2] landmark case to happen, which forced the issue of US companies complying with EU privacy protections.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_neutrality

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13499096

Re:Trump order strips privacy rights from non-U.S. citizens by justaman on Friday January 27, 2017 @08:19AM (#13499576)
The dream is inside you. Dont let the government kill it.