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Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @12:38PM (#13493366)
There's a powerful social permission / imposter syndrome thing that works against people running for office, so an effective thing you can do even if you yourself can't bring yourself to stand for office is to convince friends to do it, and offer to support their candidacies.

I've found it's remarkably easy to have that conversation with people. Ultimately, telling someone you'd support them if they ran for elected office is a pretty major compliment. And you don't really need any context or permission to bring it up; like saying "that's a nice jacket", you can say it any time. More importantly: when someone they know gives them permission, people actually will consider running.

I would much rather get 10 of my friends into local office around the country than run myself, so that's the goal I've set for myself. I'm making decent progress!

You or your friends should consider (and probably prefer) local administrative offices, like park districts or water reclamation. You don't need to be a subject matter expert to run for these --- that's not expected of you (source: friends who have these jobs). If you're wondering "why bother?", the answer is that having any kind of elected office magnifies your influence with other representatives and stakeholders. It's also great practice.

Running for the kinds of offices everyone has heard of --- Congress and Senate --- is extremely expensive (in the multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars) and, depending on the state you're in, might have a large component of building relationships with your state party. I say this not to discourage people from trying --- especially if you're thinking of running D in an unopposed R district or vice versa --- but to set expectations. Running your first time is easier than you probably think it is, as long as you pick the right office to run for.

If you're on a (recreational) Slack right now, consider opening up a channel and inviting people into it and spontaneously getting a couple people interested in running. I was on IRC channels in the 1990s that started companies that later sold for 9 figures (and the #!w00w00 people can tell you better stories). Getting a couple friends elected to their local library board seems like an extremely reasonable expectation to set for yourself.

If you're organizing something to get people to run for local office, I'm interested in talking/helping. I think there are a bunch of useful applications to be built here, and also a lot of opportunities for people to get together to share encouragement and notes.

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by OliverJones on Thursday January 26, 2017 @12:52PM (#13493494)
True. And, if you see a news report about somebody whose positions you like deciding to run ... send them a campaign contribution. Running for office is quite costly these days, and no-strings-attached contributions are really helpful.

(Many contributions have strings attached. Yours doesn't have to.)

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @12:58PM (#13493564)
Running for local office is not in fact all that expensive at all!
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by antisocial on Thursday January 26, 2017 @01:04PM (#13493622)
For a house representative, it is around 2M dollars every two years. That's 870M dollars of special interest money every two years and 7B dollars every four years. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/7-billion-spent-on-201...
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by scott_s on Thursday January 26, 2017 @01:13PM (#13493724)
Which is a problem. But I believe tptacek mean state, county town and city positions, and not necessarily in a legislative capacity.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:30PM (#13494460)
Yes. I'm specifically suggesting not running for federal office, but instead running for local office and using that position --- which is gettable --- as a base for further influence. It's not my idea; it's something a friend of mine, who has done it, is pushing.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by jimterrapin on Thursday January 26, 2017 @06:09PM (#13496234)
I couldn't agree more. You said it perfectly. The federal offices and state offices, all that stuff is easy. The hard work, and where the opportunity is, is figuring out the obscure Water Districts, Port Commissions, and similar positions. Very winnable, and they create momentum.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by iamnothere on Thursday January 26, 2017 @01:13PM (#13493721)
True, but House elections are hardly "local" -- I think they were implying city and county level offices.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by ryandrake on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:21PM (#13494374)
Running might not be expensive, but I bet winning is.

My wild-ass guess (not a political science major) is that voters can be bucketed into the following broad groups:

A: People who vote straight party-line, no matter what. A toad could be on the ticket and they'd vote for it.

B: People who vote for whatever name they most recognize.

C: People who actually study the candidate's positions and make a rational choice.

Generously let's say A=80%, B=17% and C=3% of voters.

Whether or not you get A's vote depends entirely on what letter is next to your name--you have no control. B's vote is expensive because you need to carpet the area with saturation advertising in order for them to remember you when they fill out the form. C is so small that it's probably not worthwhile to do the legwork. So you end up spending tons of money hoping that you can get B to tip the scale towards you. At least that's how it looks to me.

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by djrogers on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:35PM (#13494506)
> A: People who vote straight party-line, no matter what. A toad could be on the ticket and they'd vote for it.

Since the parents is discussing running for local office, I'm not sure why you think party comes in to play. Or perhaps this is a regional thing? In my city, party affiliations are not advertised/listed for positions such as city council, mayoral, parks board etc.

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by ryandrake on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:44PM (#13494600)
Interesting, I seem to recall party affiliation on most of the local positions on my ballot. Granted, not for things like library board member.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @03:05PM (#13494812)
There's party affiliation in some local elections, but the elections themselves are not necessarily expensive.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:29PM (#13494453)
Running for statewide or federal office is extremely expensive. What I'm saying is, don't do that, at least for your first win. Instead, win a seat on your local library board or parks district.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by nradov on Thursday January 26, 2017 @05:09PM (#13495719)
Sorry I deleted the original comment, remembered wrong facts.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by maxerickson on Thursday January 26, 2017 @05:12PM (#13495737)
Obama was a state senator in Illinois before running for US Senate.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by squozzer on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:27PM (#13494433)
The rule of thumb I was given was $1 per resident (not voter) for the office under consideration -- just to have a chance.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by antisocial on Thursday January 26, 2017 @01:19PM (#13493771)
I understand what you meant, I just wanted to get attention for my belief that we shouldn't be relying on special interest money at all to call it a democracy.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by antisocial on Thursday January 26, 2017 @12:56PM (#13493543)
Why does it have to be expensive? This is the fundamental question we should be asking and should be trying to find solutions to.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by namlem on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:17PM (#13494347)
It shouldn't be, but the only way to change that is through politics, which means working through the current system.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by anigbrowl on Thursday January 26, 2017 @03:16PM (#13494886)
To keep riff-raff like you and me out, of course.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by bpchaps on Thursday January 26, 2017 @01:31PM (#13493893)
Can confirm that it really works. I suggested to an old mentor a couple years back that he should run for office. He eventually (somewhat reluctantly) did, and found that it was surprisingly easy to get into, even without a large network of influence. It's pretty positively telling that even he, a fairly socially awkward guy, could get as far as he did. Since lots of tech folk fit that mold, it would be great to see more like him run for office. Hint, hint, y'all. ;)

Btw - any thoughts on what kind of applications can be built here?

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by germinalphrase on Thursday January 26, 2017 @02:44PM (#13494606)
Really simple toolbox for establishing a credible website, donation bucket, social media presence, self hosted email, mailing list, voter canvassing lists, news outlet contacts?

Parties and big campaigns can set such things up for candidates, but could a functional - if less sophisticated - version of those tools be established for potential local candidates?

(Perhaps, I'm just ignorant and such a toolset already exists)

Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by tptacek on Thursday January 26, 2017 @03:06PM (#13494818)
Yes, but also just things around granting people social permission to run. It's not crazy to suggest that social permission is a bigger obstacle for most elected offices than money is.
Re:Run for Office: Find all elected offices you are eligible... by germinalphrase on Thursday January 26, 2017 @06:56PM (#13496562)
By "social permission" do you mean from the individual's community, or from established parties/organizations?