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Re:Deep learning algorithm diagnoses skin cancer as well as ... by ethbro on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @08:32PM (#13487990)
Incidentally, the question of "Do younger or older physicians produce better outcomes?" recently came up on the Freakonomics podcast (they were doing a 3-episode focus on the medical system). [1; 12/14/16]

Or, if you want to search the transcript for it, "So, given a choice between two doctors, let’s say — one fresh out of medical school and the other with fifteen years’ experience, which one do you go for?"

It's a good listen or read.

Tl;dl: Anupam Jena [2], "And we can basically see what happens if a patient happens to be treated by a doctor who is 20 years out of residency versus 5 years out of residency. And what we find is that if you happen to be treated by a doctor who is 10 years or 15 years out of residency, your mortality within thirty days of being hospitalized is higher." [Note: surgeons were one of the specializations that did not follow this correlation]

Side note: the medical profession is really terrible at keeping statistics on outcomes, outside of actual trials.

[1] http://freakonomics.com/podcast/bad-medicine-part-3-death-di...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Jena+AB%5BAuthor%5...

Re:Deep learning algorithm diagnoses skin cancer as well as ... by fapjacks on Thursday January 26, 2017 @05:05AM (#13490107)
Well, I don't think this is surprising, really. Those doctors are closer temporally to their training than the old docs. This is also why "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?" is actually harder than people think, because all those kids just learned last week what the capital of West Virginia is. Surgery seems to be a logical exception, since at the end of the day, I suppose it's more like being a car mechanic than a trivia competitor, and having a body of experience and "tricks of the trade" is more valuable than trying to compete with knowing more than WebMD and Wikipedia. I can't wait to pass the torch of diagnostics over to computers. People are generally lazy and they get comfortable too quickly for my taste, including doctors. I bet if you found some kind of situation in which doctors were kept on their toes, and constantly retraining their knowledge base, you'd find that the mortality rate doesn't go up.