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Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by xenophanes on Friday May 14, 2010 @04:29PM (#1348506)
A degree makes it easier to be successful at big companies with dumb management -- but why work there?

It's no big deal at better places. If you don't get a degree, you can spend less time learning at least as much relevant stuff.

Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by InclinedPlane on Friday May 14, 2010 @05:10PM (#1348608)
"A degree makes it easier to be successful at big companies with dumb management -- but why work there?"

Because "big companies with dumb management" hire a lot of people and pay them well?

Most people aren't fortunate enough to have their dream job quite yet and their number one priority for work is just getting the bills paid.

Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by xenophanes on Friday May 14, 2010 @05:45PM (#1348712)
The average 18 yo considering college doesn't have bills yet. IMO they should aim for the life they want, and do their best to make it work out, not sacrifice 4 years to make a semi-OK possible future work out more smoothly.

BTW if you're going to take semi-lame jobs, you only have to get hired a few times in your life. Optimizing the job search part isn't a great use of time -- even if no college doubles your lifetime job search time, going to college would still be a loss in that respect.

Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by hugh3 on Friday May 14, 2010 @06:17PM (#1348783)
On the other hand, two thirds of 18yos don't know what kind of life they want. And of those that do, two thirds will probably have completely changed their minds by the time they're 25.

Some people are incredibly driven towards a particular set of goals, but the majority of people just sorta drift through life figuring things out as they go.

Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by xenophanes on Friday May 14, 2010 @07:12PM (#1348885)
If you don't know what kind of life you want, how does college help? It pushes you to pick a major, and to pursue a lifestyle where attending college was not a waste of time and money.

And college is extraordinarily boring if you aren't already strongly interested in what you're studying. To get a good value out of college at minimum you need some initiative, and some understanding of what you want to get out of it. You need goals or you will just drift through completely pointlessly -- as many people do.

Of course one can try a variety of things at college. But one can do that outside of college too. Shrug.

Re:College for all? Experts say not necessarily by hugh3 on Friday May 14, 2010 @07:24PM (#1348915)
Oh, I never said that going to college would help, I'm just saying that your "aim for the kind of life you want" advice isn't helpful to most school-leavers.

I'd agree that if a kid leaves school and doesn't know what he wants to do then going to university may not be the best option at all. Taking a few years off to do something else is a great idea and shouldn't be stigmatized as much as it is.

Heck, if you really want to shake up the education industry then perhaps it should be compulsory: have a university that won't let you in until you demonstrate that you've spent eighteen months in the workforce doing something impressive.