Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit
by dwaltrip on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @04:43AM
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I agree with you that the Republicans are more ideological in recent years.
It's late, so I don't have the best examples, but I have a vague impression that there has been an increase of single-dimension, with-us-or-against-us identity politics. Perhaps I'm mistaking noisy for large. Even still, many of these groups do have legitimate claims...
Reflecting a bit, I suppose one main reason I posted was that I didn't like the implication that the mainstream left has become enlightened past the point of ideology. But perhaps that point is too much of a distraction in this conversation. Meh.
Btw, not that it should matter, but I lean left and voted for both Obama and Hillary.
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit
by hackuser on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @05:16PM
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> I didn't like the implication that the mainstream left has become enlightened past the point of ideology
I agree. It's not that the mainstream left is so great and above reproach, it's that their right-wing competition has embraced madness.
Right, so let's stop talking of theoretical possibilities and look at concrete reality. I don't know of the last time a party embraced ideology as strongly as today's GOP; anyone who doesn't see that will never see ideology anywhere - it hardly could get more extreme.
> I do think there are very large segments of both that are almost entirely ideological, and that, unfortunately, these subgroups often take most of the limelight.
Again, a false equivalence IMHO. Which very large, limelight-stealing Democrat group are you referring to? Hillary Clinton supporters were the largest group; she's almost the opposite of ideological. Obama and his supporters are very non-ideological. The participants in last Saturday's marches were generally non-ideological, AFAICT.