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Re:Safari 10.1 by cobralibre on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @07:27PM (#13477225)
"When the pointer is locked, users will see a banner explaining that the mouse cursor is hidden, and that they can get out of pointer lock by pressing the Escape key."

I beg your pardon — which key?

Re:Safari 10.1 by simonhamp on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:09PM (#13477496)
Funny. But there is still an escape key and it's not altogether impossible to use
Re:Safari 10.1 by philliphaydon on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:22PM (#13477577)
Unless of course you touch type in which case you end up looking at the keyboard now....
Re:Safari 10.1 by eridius on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @10:40PM (#13478262)
No you don't. Why would you? Touch-typing relies on you knowing where each key is, and the Escape key is still in the same place it always was.
Re:Safari 10.1 by int_19h on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @02:39AM (#13479516)
In my experience (with Thinkpad X1 Carbon, which also had a capacitive touch strip for function keys), it doesn't actually work that way. Your muscle memory might involve hitting the key away from the center or at a slight angle, which registers properly on the usual keyboard, but is sufficiently ambiguous with touch that sometimes it does the wrong thing, or sometimes it does nothing at all.
Re:Safari 10.1 by philliphaydon on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @12:48PM (#13483799)
If I use a normal keyboard, even on my 12" Macbook, I never need to look at the keyboard, but with the touch bar, I simply cannot press the esc key, i put my finger there, touch it, and sometimes nothing happens, its like it doesn't register that you press it, or maybe im touching it wrong.

Regardless I feel like I'm trying to re-learn to type.

I'm moving to a Dell XPS 15 tho. Done with Apple if this is the direction they are going.

Re:Safari 10.1 by eridius on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @03:56PM (#13485989)
What do you mean by "the direction they are going"? Are you implying that next Apple is going to replace the rest of the keyboard with touchbar-like keys? Because I highly doubt that's going to happen.
Re:Safari 10.1 by paublyrne on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @04:54AM (#13480099)
Sometimes I actually miss and hit the area just above it. I have nothing to catch as my finger goes to the area.
Re:Safari 10.1 by james32322 on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @09:07PM (#13477808)
Except not really, because the hitbox for esc is the entire top left of the bar, as long as you touch the corner, you esc.
Re:Safari 10.1 by ash_gti on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @10:39PM (#13478257)
The tocuh bars pretty accessible, you can use ^[ as well.

I've remapped my caps to escape since I never use capslock.

Re:Safari 10.1 by mwfunk on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @09:52PM (#13478043)
Whether or not that's true for someone, "looking at the keyboard" != "impossible to use".
Re:Safari 10.1 by simonhamp on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:24PM (#13477585)
Agreed, but still not 'impossible'