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Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by openasocket on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @07:04PM (#13477062)
> The US is an oligarchy.

OK, I see this statement all the time and I just don't understand it. How can you say that when Trump, a man with exactly zero political experience, beat out a lifelong politician and wife of a President, not to mention the half dozen qualified candidates in the primary. Obama beat Clinton in the primary and McCain in the general when his only political experience he had was in the state senate.

Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by yarou on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @07:49PM (#13477383)
You don't see how a supposedly "anti-establishment" candidate who happens to be a billionaire (and is surrounded in his cabinet by other billionaires) doesn't reek of a system of crony capitalism and oligarchy?

If so, I have a few butt coins and a blockchain to sell you.

Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by jack9 on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @11:49PM (#13478626)
> doesn't reek of a system of crony capitalism and oligarchy?

It reeks of political corruption. Money talks and Trump talked the loudest AND was populist. As a politician, you can't go wrong pandering to the largest groups (e.g. california). Clinton's promises didn't really make any headlines and were saddled by any comparison to Obama's failures to deliver whatever people imagined he was going to do for them.

Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by openasocket on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:55PM (#13477755)
yeah, I almost didn't include that, but I think he still counts because he ran in on a wave of rampant populism, bowling over the entire Republican establishment in the process. He's absolutely an example of crony capitalism, but not necessarily an oligarchy. At the very least, not the same oligarchy as the political establishment.
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by battlebot on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:06PM (#13477479)
America's forefathers were all wealthy men, it did not mean they were oligarchs. Was George Washington an oligarch? Jefferson? Madison?
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @10:09PM (#13478120)
Yes.
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by battlebot on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @11:36PM (#13478563)
Then why did they give the country to the people, then? Why did they make it democratic when they had the golden opportunity to create a monarchy or some other form of totalitarianism.
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by cmrdporcupine on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @08:44AM (#13481285)
It would be a stretch to say they gave it to the people. They 'gave' it to their own class of people. White, male, land owners and the emergent bourgeoisie/industrialists. Universal suffrage was a _long_ way off, and arguably never fully arrived in the U.S. due to ongoing racial politics.
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by oculusthrift on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @07:10PM (#13477117)
i mean hes still a billionaire funded by billionaires. youd have a point of bernie won...
Re:USDA disavows gag-order emailed to scientific research unit by sien on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:20PM (#13477571)
Obama was US Senator for Illinois from 2005-2008.

He was an Illinois Senator from 1997-2004.