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Re:Rsync.net – Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups by StavrosK on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:21AM (#13471074)
You don't "remove" a canary, you just stop updating it. The intent being that they can't force you to keep updating it.
Re:Rsync.net – Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups by rtpg on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @09:10AM (#13471370)
They can't force you. Just like they can't force you to not tweet.

They can sure sue the hell out of you after you stop updating though.

Re:Rsync.net – Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups by SahAssar on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @05:30PM (#13476367)
The idea is that forced speech is different than free speech. That means that someone can force you to not say something, but not force you to say something.
Re:Rsync.net – Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups by rtpg on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @07:22PM (#13477200)
so there are two things:

- The government cannot force you to update the canary. A court cannot get you to update it, because it's forced speech to demand an update.

- You created the canary of your own accord, and are responsible for its effects. Not updating the canary is, effectively, speech.

Though, from [0]:

"Realistically, though, courts compel speech all the time. Court-ordered apologies, disclosures, and notices are not unusual. And if ever a court would be inclined to compel speech, it would be in a situation like this one, where a company intentionally set out to get around a gag order with this kind of convoluted sea-lawyering."

[0]:http://law.stackexchange.com/questions/268/is-there-any-lega...

Re:Rsync.net – Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups by type0 on Tuesday January 24, 2017 @08:42AM (#13471188)
What if they could do it instead of you, even if you use distributed signing how difficult would it be?