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Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by lox on Monday January 23, 2017 @05:06PM (#13466547)
They penalize slow sites, its very different.
Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by vorpalhex on Monday January 23, 2017 @05:11PM (#13466588)
If all websites fall into one of two categories: fast or slow, and you penalize one, it's the same as helping the other and vice versa.
Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by greglindahl on Monday January 23, 2017 @05:29PM (#13466745)
The world isn't that simple. Search engines know how fast their fetches are all of the time, but they only know how fast a javascript-heavy site is when the search engine crawls with javascript on -- which is rarely.

And by construction, AMP pages are easy to analyze without having to execute anything.

Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by chris_va on Monday January 23, 2017 @07:28PM (#13467727)
You perhaps underestimate the complexity and fidelity of the Google crawl, indexing, and ranking pipeline. Many intelligent people have spent many years trying to solve the sorts of problems you describe.

(disclaimer: I work at Google, and used to work on Search)

Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by greglindahl on Monday January 23, 2017 @07:40PM (#13467802)
I totally get that Google has done a lot of work on these issues. It is still the case that no website that wants good ranks should depend on Google executing their javascript. Implementing AMP, on the other hand, means that you know you're going to get a good mobile speed score.

In no way was I dissing Google's crawl or crawl team. I'm just handing out conservative advice for website owners.

(disclaimer: blekko Founder/CTO. Nice to meet you.)

Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by chris_va on Monday January 23, 2017 @08:04PM (#13467940)
Nice to meet you too :)
Re:Google AMP Is Not a Good Thing by jjnoakes on Monday January 23, 2017 @05:10PM (#13466580)
I don't immediately see the vast difference between ranking fast sights higher and ranking slow sites lower. Clue me in please.